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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-29-2020, 06:06 PM - Thread Starter
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Need GPU recommendation for my antique rig...

GPU just died on me, but trying to keep this antique system alive a little bit longer if it doesn't cost me too much.

I have looked at bottlenecker websites but have read not to trust them...

What do you guys recommend that will work with my system, is inexpensive and available, and will ensure my CPU is the bottleneck at 1920x1200 gaming?

(I think max card length should be 240mm but I can filter that through Newegg I guess. I have two PCIe 2.0 x16 slots, but I hear most cards are backwards compatible?)

Thanks!!!

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Q6600 G0 @ 3.32GHz (415.2x8)
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X38 Asus Maximus Formula SE
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MSI GTX 560Ti Twin Frozr II 2GB
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2x 2GB G.Skill DDR2-1066/PC2-8500 5-5-5-15
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WD RE4 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache, 500GB Barracuda
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LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner
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Silverstone DA750
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TT Armor w/ 25cm side fan
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-29-2020, 06:37 PM
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Here is a great list showing how cards rank against each other - https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...rchy,4388.html

The R9 390 8GB is easy to come by for around $65 USD and performs well for the cost. Runs just about any game you have maxed @ 1080p.

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Samsung Spintpoint M9T 2TB
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If the card that died was the 560TI in your sig. Then a GDDR5 GT1030 would be about the same performance. Maybe a little faster. But i would look for a good used GPU. Maybe check the marketplace.

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Yes it is the 560ti in my sig that died.

Thanks for the recommendations.

Looks like the GDDR5 GT1030 is the cheapest new card that is decent for around $100, or a RX 570 for $120, but am not seeing any used R9 390's for $65, looks like most on ebay are bid up to $100-$120.

And looks like a GTX 770, GTX 780, or R9 380 for $85-$95 is the best I can find used on ebay.

Bummer, was hoping I could escape with something for $50 or $60 shipped.

My System
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Q6600 G0 @ 3.32GHz (415.2x8)
Motherboard
X38 Asus Maximus Formula SE
GPU
MSI GTX 560Ti Twin Frozr II 2GB
RAM
2x 2GB G.Skill DDR2-1066/PC2-8500 5-5-5-15
Hard Drive
WD RE4 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache, 500GB Barracuda
Optical Drive
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner
Power Supply
Silverstone DA750
Case
TT Armor w/ 25cm side fan
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28" Hanns-G HH-281HPB LCD
Keyboard
IBM Model M compact
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With those prices I would personally recommend the RX 570. That is a steal of a deal at $120, and a solid all around performer. There is a rather large performance difference between the GTX 1030 and the RX 570. Quite large.

I forgot about the covid-19 affecting prices on hardware so much. Those used prices don't make a lot of sense when you can get new cards that perform better for around the same cost.

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MSI R9 390 8GB
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120GB HP M700 SSD
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If you can get a card with 8 GB VRAM unless you really want to save and go with a 4 GB model which will choke in modern games (last 5 years) especially moded ones. An RX 570 is fine.
A used 390/X 8 GB would be good too but used market is fairly dead outside US or at least "western" countries.

There are plenty reviews on TechPowerUp which will show you the best bang4buck for new cards.
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Thanks guys.

Wouldn't a lot of the newer cards (even value ones) be overkill given my CPU? (Not even sure how many 'modern games' my CPU would be able to run.) And my system would noticeably be able to take advantage of 8GB vs. 4GB at 1920x1200 resolution?

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Q6600 G0 @ 3.32GHz (415.2x8)
Motherboard
X38 Asus Maximus Formula SE
GPU
MSI GTX 560Ti Twin Frozr II 2GB
RAM
2x 2GB G.Skill DDR2-1066/PC2-8500 5-5-5-15
Hard Drive
WD RE4 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache, 500GB Barracuda
Optical Drive
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner
Power Supply
Silverstone DA750
Case
TT Armor w/ 25cm side fan
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Keyboard
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most of the recommendations given really were cards that have the best performance per dollar that were also cheap, not the cheapest cards that won't be bottlenecked by your CPU.

if you can get a card that doesn't get bottlenecked by your Q6600 for $50 or one that is $60 that has double the performance but is going to be bottlenecked it still makes more sense to go for the $60 card unless there's zero chance of you ever upgrading your rig, lol.

shoot me a PM if you're interested in a GTX 950, have one I've been meaning to sell for a while.

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AMD FX-8320 Vishera @ X4 5022mhz (+43.5%)
Intel i5 4690K Haswell @ X4 5013mhz (+43.2%)
AMD X4 960T Zosma @ X6 4870mhz (+62.3%)
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XPG SX8200 Pro NVMe 2TB
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HP EX950 NVMe 2TB
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WD Blue 4TB SSD
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Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750w
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Corsair H115i Pro
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Raijintek Morpheus II
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Fractal Design Meshify S2
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Windows 10 Education x64
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Iris Plus 655
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Kingston DDR4 2400 16GB
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Mushkin Pilot NVMe 1TB
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Thanks, I will keep the GTX 950 in mind, and yeah this will be the final upgrade for this system before I go nuts with a whole new system whenever Squadron 42 or Diablo 4 comes out.

My research is showing some people saying that a 750 TI will be bottlenecked by a Q6600, while others are saying an OC Q6600 @ 3.0-3.3GHz like mine doesn't seem to be bottlenecked by a 1050 ti at 1080P...

Leads me to think maybe I should splurge on a RX 570, R9 390, GTX 780, or GTX 1060.

Two more questions:

1. I have read that 'newer' cards require uefi bios as opposed to legacy bios? Is this accurate?
2. Will I notice significant FPS increases with a 6GB or 8GB card as opposed to 3GB/4GB?

(my system runs 8GB DDR2 RAM BTW, for some reason editing my system is not reflected in my signature.)

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Q6600 G0 @ 3.32GHz (415.2x8)
Motherboard
X38 Asus Maximus Formula SE
GPU
MSI GTX 560Ti Twin Frozr II 2GB
RAM
2x 2GB G.Skill DDR2-1066/PC2-8500 5-5-5-15
Hard Drive
WD RE4 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache, 500GB Barracuda
Optical Drive
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner
Power Supply
Silverstone DA750
Case
TT Armor w/ 25cm side fan
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hardware doesn't bottleneck hardware, it's just a term to describe when software is held back by a single component. that's why you're not going to get a black or white answer, lol.

without telling us what the machine is being used for, either in what specific work loads or what specific games you play, you're just going to get people projecting what they use their PC for and what would bottleneck them in those scenarios.

https://www.techspot.com/article/131...n-years-later/

worth a read ^

some games scale with going for a 1070 over a 1060 (sort-of) with a Q6600, some games don't scale at all.

Intel i9 9900K Coffee Lake @ X8 5309mhz (+47.5%)
AMD FX-8320 Vishera @ X4 5022mhz (+43.5%)
Intel i5 4690K Haswell @ X4 5013mhz (+43.2%)
AMD X4 960T Zosma @ X6 4870mhz (+62.3%)
Intel i7 6700 Skylake @ X4 4709mhz (+38.5%)
Intel i5 6400 Skylake @ X4 4588mhz (+69.9%)
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NUC U
(9 items)
CPU
i9 9900K
Motherboard
AsRock Z390 Taichi
GPU
MSI GTX 1080 Ti
RAM
G.Skill DDR4 4133 32GB
Hard Drive
XPG SX8200 Pro NVMe 2TB
Hard Drive
HP EX950 NVMe 2TB
Hard Drive
2x Samsung 860 1TB RAID 0
Hard Drive
WD Blue 4TB SSD
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750w
Cooling
Corsair H115i Pro
Cooling
Raijintek Morpheus II
Case
Fractal Design Meshify S2
Operating System
Windows 10 Education x64
Monitor
Acer XF270HU 27" 1440p
Monitor
LG 24UD58 24" 4K
Keyboard
CoolerMaster MK730 (MX Blue)
Mouse
Glorious Model D
Mousepad
X-Ray 27" x 14"
Audio
Klipsch PowerGate
Audio
Schiit Hel
Audio
Micca RB42
Audio
Philips Fidelio X2
Audio
Philips SHP9500S
Audio
Audio Technica ATH-M50X
CPU
i3 8109U
Motherboard
Intel NUC8i3BEH
GPU
Iris Plus 655
RAM
Kingston DDR4 2400 16GB
Hard Drive
Mushkin Pilot NVMe 1TB
Hard Drive
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