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post #21 of 48 (permalink) Old 01-22-2019, 06:25 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by termathor View Post
Yes, been looking for a 1080ti in french and swiss sites and the cheapest (new) was 880 E ! For used (read: mining) ones, I stumbled across a 250 E one ... advertised as not working, for parts only !!! *** ? For working used ones (if you have to be picky enough to want a working one), I had one or 2 at 550 E in the UK. Seems the UK is the most reasonable market ATM ...
But still, totally crazed prices, in Europe. I understand the US is quite different in this regard ...

Frankly, no way to fork out close to 900 E for new or 60% on a mining 1080ti, I'll stay on my 970 until sellers are desperate enough. I'm still at 1080p and I'll delay a bit the VR stuff.



I think inventory has not yet rotten enough for sellers to be desperate. Let's wait 6-12 months
The supply is quite low in EU for 2nd hand high performing GPUs in my experience. Now if it's a 480-580/1060 maybe even 1070 then the miners flood it for cheap and compete with each other on prices at least a bit and you can haggle them down. But 1080Ti... very few people buy these cards and upgrade to RTX 2080Ti, paid big bucks for new card they want a ton back from their old one. There are some buy even 550+EUR is simply too much, that's what the card should cost almost new few months old on a 2nd hand market, not a burned out 2 year old card. Lack of performance and value advancement of new GPUs is to blame, if a new 2080 cost 500 EUR they wouldn't be selling 1080Ti above that. If a new 2080 cost 1500 EUR and 1080Ti not being sold anymore, they would happily sell 1080Ti on 2nd hand market for 1000 EUR. Nvidia is only giving free profit to miners on 2nd hand market with their crazy prices. Often people sell broken not working cards on eBay at 1/3rd price of new, which is ridiculous, the cards are worthless and cooler itself if useful to someone isn't worth more than 40 EUR if even that, they sell broken 1070s for a price of a working used 1060

The situation on market is mental and it won't change until better alternative options are available... Navi has to launch in summer or this will continue.
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post #22 of 48 (permalink) Old 01-22-2019, 09:26 PM
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I predicted that Jim from AdoredTV's leak will end up being largely accurate and that we will see Navi launching later this summer at around $250 with roughly 1080 (not Ti) performance and I was called an unrealistic hype-monger, lol! I'm sorry but I fail to see how predicting we will see a middle-tier card on a brand new architecture AND node launching at the performance level of a high end (but NON-flagship) GPU from 3 years ago at $250 is being totally unreasonable and unrealistic??? Obviously given AMD's recent track record in GPU releases (Polaris and Vega) I understand people's reticence to give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to another upcoming GPU launch but nothing I have predicted is so crazily impossible as to be downright scoffed at. Now that the CPU division has its feet firmly under it, I personally believe that AMD will transition their efforts into graphics with the same kind of focus and effort that brought us Ryzen and all indications are that Navi is out-performing AMD's projections so I guess we'll see.

None of this Navi stuff is really relevant to the 1080Ti market though as even I am not predicting that level of performance out of Navi (though crazier things have happened before)...


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I feel the world should be more generous honestly. For those who can afford the latest tech gadgets, they really can afford to give their newish stuff to people less fortunate for free/heavy discount. The moment you buy tech related items its all sunk costs, so you try to use the items as much as possible then expect to give it away to others at almost no costs. Its our duty to help the less fortunate to some extent (cant give them free everything or they wont do any work,etc). Even for me, I always end up subsidizing my friends builds to some extent to ensure they don't have to cheap out on certain parts and can enjoy the whole process of building an computer.

Based on these posts, I really should give my core components (ram, mobo, 7920x, 2080ti, cpu and gpu waterblock) for free to some lucky guy here whenever i upgrade to 7nm GPU and the next generation cpus in couple of years. Sure, there will be the Ryzen, Sunnycove,etc by then but its not like an 7920x, 2080ti will be obsolete for many users. It more environmentally friendly too. Heck, i would even give away my Caselabs S8 for free if it wasn't for fact there will be nothing like it again and I absolutely love caselabs simple design and ease to build in.
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post #24 of 48 (permalink) Old 01-23-2019, 12:57 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
The situation on market is mental and it won't change until better alternative options are available... Navi has to launch in summer or this will continue.
Sadly, I think you're 100% right ... I had thought, with NVidia saying, months ago, they were having an inventory problem, that prices would get back to acceptable (read: MSRP) or even below, but none of this happened.
This shows to me the current GPU market is a speculative one, still today.

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The shops over here are selling the 1080TI for same or slightly higher price than a RTX 2080. Not sure why, but I would never buy it for that price.
The second hand 1080TI's are also going for about 600-800euro depending on the brand/edition.

The best deal I found was a new (replaced under RMA) MSI 1080TI EK Sea Hawk X for 665euro's with 3 years of warranty. I wanted to buy an RTX 2080 + EK/watercool block, but that would cost around 850-900euro's for the card and another 150-180euro for the waterblock, so the 1080TI preblocked with the EK block was a better deal.

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Even if I paid more for my 2080 than these mentally challenged folks paying for 1080ti, I have no issues. Better card, better performance, and I get to game and enjoy my rig instead of trolling the forums about how expensive rtx cards are. There's two types of computer people, those always waiting for the next big thing (permanently) and those who bite the bullet and jump and use their computer how it's meant to be, powered on and doing stuff

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Quote: Originally Posted by guitarmageddon88 View Post
Even if I paid more for my 2080 than these mentally challenged folks paying for 1080ti, I have no issues. Better card, better performance, and I get to game and enjoy my rig instead of trolling the forums about how expensive rtx cards are. There's two types of computer people, those always waiting for the next big thing (permanently) and those who bite the bullet and jump and use their computer how it's meant to be, powered on and doing stuff
Your absolutely right. I think this thread is becoming an troll spot. I feel that most people just want an free lunch now, give me the best cpu, motherboard, GPU for dirt cheap (ideally free). Worst thing is even if you give them an free lunch, they complain and are not very thankful. Please say an thank you at least if you know what your getting is an good deal.
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Jesus! The card is trending @ $577...used. Should I put mine up?!

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Jesus! The card is trending @ $577...used. Should I put mine up?!
You would sell it before you got all the "for sale" text written at that price. lol




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This thread should really be closed.

My advice for all those waiting for 1080ti used, just wait for the Navi or Nvidia 7nm GPU's. Watch those 2080TI drop from 1200USD to 300USD or less. I guarantee you many 2080ti users will jump to next thing based on what 7nm architectural benefits and to avoid the random death gpu. You guys complain too much, I will give some lucky person my 2080TI once i jump to next gen GPU at no cost (shipping not included).
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