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Is this RX 570 deal good?

Hello, I am currently using the pc for pure photoshop and illustrator and other photo editing and drawing apps.

I want a very budget gpu just enough to run PS and illustrator SMOOTHLY for a couple of years + have the ability to game a little bit (10% of the time and give me constant 60fps+ for 2+ years)


I figured the RX 570 4gb is the best performance/$ for me since I think it is at a good price and perfect for my use.


I found 2 deals but didnt know if it is good; feel free for any suggestions


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1


is the gigabyte good with no problems? bcs it is in a good price, but the msi is retail.




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I would just be aware the Aorus card is power hungry out of the box and fans can spin up to around 2300 due to heatsink size:

https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/gr...-570-review/9/ ,

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreview...gtx1060/page-3 ,

https://www.hardwareasylum.com/revie...4gd/page3.aspx ,

https://www.profesionalreview.com/20...rx-570-review/ ,

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/81...mp/index9.html ,

https://3dnews.ru/954578/#%D0%A2%D0%...B2%D0%B8%D0%B4


The Gigabyte card runs $130 after $20 rebate on Newegg currently : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16814125966



The MSI armor is more or less the same story with the additional drawbacks of no backplate and less heatpipes (2 instead of 4). The Armor MK2 was created to address the main drawbacks and you see the heatsink is larger and increased to 3 heatpipes.



Best RX 570 is the Sapphire Nitro as you get a dual BIOS , the best power delivery on RX 570, and arguably the best cooler and if you get the 8GB VRAM one it sometimes has Samsung VRAM



As far as RX 570s go it's something like:
Sapphire Nitro -- 4 heatpipe (2x 8mm, 2x6mm) with 95mm fans, 6 phase integrated powerstages , backplate, dual BIOS .. about 1350MHz when just about every other card is rated 1280ish

Then the others in no particular order...

MSI Gaming X -- 2 "S" heatpipe (1x8mm , 1x6mm) with 95mm fans , 6 phase dual-N fet
MSI Armor MK2 --- 3 heatpipe (3x6mm direct touch), 6 phase dual-N fetSapphire Pulse -- 2 heatpipe 95mm fans, 4 phase integrated powerstage
Asus STRIX --- 2 heatpipe (2x8mm direct touch) with 95mm fans, 6 phase
Gigabyte Aorus (only comes in 4GB) --- 4 heatpipe (4x6mm direct touch) with 90mm fans, 6 phase
Gigabyte Gaming --- 3 heatpipe (2x6mm direct touch) with 90mm fans, 6 phase

Asrock Phantom X --- 3 heatpipe (1x8mm, 2x6mm) with 87mm blade fans, 6 phase
Asus Expedition -- 2 heatpipes (2x 8mm direct touch) something less than 6 phases
Sapphire Pulse ITX -- 2 heatpipe , 4 phase integrated powerstages
XFX RS --- 2x8mm heatpipe and 85mm fans, 5 phase <-- dual BIOs
MSI Armor --- 2 heatpipe and 85mm fans , 6 phase

Of those the Aorus, Armor MK2 , Pulse and XFX RS have a backplate



(main reference for lineup: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-spec...n-rx-570.c2939 , https://videocardz.com/amd/radeon-500/radeon-rx-570)

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Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
I would just be aware the Aorus card is power hungry out of the box and fans can spin up to around 2300 due to heatsink size:

https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/gr...-570-review/9/ ,

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreview...gtx1060/page-3 ,

https://www.hardwareasylum.com/revie...4gd/page3.aspx ,

https://www.profesionalreview.com/20...rx-570-review/ ,

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/81...mp/index9.html ,

https://3dnews.ru/954578/#%D0%A2%D0%...B2%D0%B8%D0%B4


The Gigabyte card runs $130 after $20 rebate on Newegg currently : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16814125966



The MSI armor is more or less the same story with the additional drawbacks of no backplate and less heatpipes (2 instead of 4). The Armor MK2 was created to address the main drawbacks and you see the heatsink is larger and increased to 3 heatpipes.



Best RX 570 is the Sapphire Nitro as you get a dual BIOS , the best power delivery on RX 570, and arguably the best cooler and if you get the 8GB VRAM one it sometimes has Samsung VRAM



As far as RX 570s go it's something like:
Sapphire Nitro -- 4 heatpipe (2x 8mm, 2x6mm) with 95mm fans, 6 phase integrated powerstages , backplate, dual BIOS .. about 1350MHz when just about every other card is rated 1280ish

Then the others in no particular order...

MSI Gaming X -- 2 "S" heatpipe (1x8mm , 1x6mm) with 95mm fans , 6 phase dual-N fet

MSI Armor MK2 --- 3 heatpipe (3x6mm direct touch), 6 phase dual-N fetSapphire Pulse -- 2 heatpipe 95mm fans, 4 phase integrated powerstage
Asus STRIX --- 2 heatpipe (2x8mm direct touch) with 95mm fans, 6 phase

Gigabyte Aorus (only comes in 4GB) --- 4 heatpipe (4x6mm direct touch) with 90mm fans, 6 phase

Asrock Phantom X --- 3 heatpipe (1x8mm, 2x6mm) with 87mm blade fans, 6 phase

Asus Expedition -- 2 heatpipes (2x 8mm direct touch) something less than 6 phases
Sapphire Pulse ITX -- 2 heatpipe , 4 phase integrated powerstages
XFX RS --- 2x8mm heatpipe and 85mm fans, 5 phase <-- dual BIOs

MSI Armor --- 2 heatpipe and 85mm fans , 6 phase


Of those the Aorus, Armor MK2 , Pulse and XFX RS have a backplate



(main reference for lineup: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-spec...n-rx-570.c2939 , https://videocardz.com/amd/radeon-500/radeon-rx-570)
Thank you very much for your helpful reply. So I dont want to pay much since it will rarely game(but i need its horsepower when i game obviously), so 90% is going to be idle. I saw a good sale in amazon but the company is the first time i heard, so how is its releability? and will it hold several years no problems since i live overseas and will he harder to communicate to the company. and overall do you recommend it to me?

https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-57...r=8-2-fkmrnull

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Just to reassurethe main use will be generally browsing and youtube and office. also main huge workload and dependant is photoshop and illustrator. and very rarely 1080p 60fps. so i think a good idle temp and noise is also important secondhand to quality and durability.

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Since I temporarily provided the R7 2700x build with my MSI GTX 970 for its gpu lack, i can keep it there, and get my self the rx 570 and continue gaming at my 1080p 60fps personal pc 90% of the time since it will perform a bit better.

i am only concerned about the gpu quality since i dont want to get into the rma issues being overseas and would have to pay shipping and the whole budget would be destroyed. so it is a pretty hard choice. going with a 180$ reputable gpu or risk with the 130$ gpu.

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Edit: better deal: https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Rade...lockconvert-20

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The bad thing it ships 1-3 months

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That's just an estimate. I've ordered PC parts on Amazon that said ships in 3-4 weeks and had them by the end of that next week.

But if you are in a hurry other options may have a guaranteed delivery date.


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Quote: Originally Posted by speed_demon View Post
That's just an estimate. I've ordered PC parts on Amazon that said ships in 3-4 weeks and had them by the end of that next week.

But if you are in a hurry other options may have a guaranteed delivery date.
I am not in a hurry at all thankfully. Just to make things clear and get your advice.

I have an old PERSONAL intel system I built 3+ years ago for gaming.

i7 4790k
msi z97 g45 gaming mobo
16gb ram
MSI GTX 970.
1080p 60hz monitor.

It has been really great in games and satisfied.

Then we built a system for my mother mainly for future proof and photo editing and peace of mind.

2700x
b450
16gb ram
1050 ti
1080p 60hz monitor

then I found out the 1050 ti was a terrible deal for 180$ and I returned it for a refund.

So until I get a new card, i plugged in my gtx 970 to the 2700x build and running my personal system with igpu of the 4790k.

What I wanted to do is get a future proof budget for my mother and get my 970 back and i dont want to pay alot either. so i figured to get the rx 570 for 160$ range and get better deal than 1050 ti. but after re thinking, I want to keep the 970 in my mother's build (the 2700x) since its very stable for anything and dont want to tinker a lot with her build and risk, And I get another budget card for my GAMING at 1080p 60hz. So IF AND ONLY IF the 99$ rx 570 mining card is the BEST budget deal i can get for 60fps+ at 1080p gaming HIGH or ULTRA, do you recommend me getting it since i would not find any better deal?

Also, will it work PERFECTLY FINE with my system and bios and will integrate properly and smoothly with my system as any normal card?

Also, my monitor output is HDMI and I have a DVI-D to HDMI adaptor; will it work fine?

Thank you.

I can wait all the time I need, and I really need ur advice on this one.

Thanks

edit: if I am leaving the gtx 970 in the 2700x build, and i will be getting a budget 1080p 60hz gpu, I have no concern on fan noise or rgb or anything. It will only be best and worth Performance/$ and average durability as other normal cards
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If you're going to get a RX 570 mining edition you're better off with a used card with warranty on it or a new card (sell off the games for $20-30). MSI warranty is transferable as it's based off the serial number: https://us.msi.com/page/warranty.

The Armor MK2 has "Zero Frozr" aka fan stop / zero dB mode under 60°C. Functionally it's a weaker cooler in terms of size vs the Gaming X version, but as far as I can tell it has the same power delivery (durability that you care about) and the backplate should stop PCB flex.

Sapphire Mining edition only has DVI display output and 6 months warranty. It's a cheaper version of the Sapphire Pulse , as such can't find any breakdowns of it (it might not even have fan stop).


If noise isn't as big a deal for you the $130 Newegg Gigabyte Gaming card should be fine. I wouldn't get the Powercolor red dragon, there's no mention of fan stop and it's a 2 year warranty plus the reliability has been poor per mining people.



edit: Another thing I noticed is the non-aorus product page now lists 3 heatpipes instead of the 4 pictured in every review of the Aorus card. So that's basically roughly on par with Armor MK2.


Prices should dip further next month due to launch of GTX 1660 around March 15.

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