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290X to 1070?

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I would like to ask if an upgrade from 290X to 1070 8G would be worth it? As I'm not planning to buy or upgrade my system any more in the future and i need a bit of a slight of power increase to run modern games a bit better so i though of getting an used Zotac 1070 8GB AMP and replace my 290x for that slight performance boost. Is it worth it? the used 1070 8G is the same price as the new GTX 1660 for me.
Should i make the upgrade or it's not worth it?

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What games do you play? I assume you are going to stay at 1080p?
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depends entirely on the games you play.

if you play the games I play then I'd save my money for a platform upgrade instead, 4 cores is getting long in the tooth and is going to be more of a limitation than your 290X (again, assuming you only play the same games I play).

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Hmmm recent game i played is Ghost Recon Wildlands and that too i had to lower the gpu settings some to mids to get it work without dropping fps under 40....
as i don't plan to buy a new system in the future 2-3 years i guess, and it seems the 290x is struggling even now run 2017-18 games on high already and yes at the moment i plan to stay at 1080p.
the used Zotac AMP 1070 8GB is about 200$ and still have warranty for 1 year, and it seems it can boost a bit of performance?

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Hmmm recent game i played is Ghost Recon Wildlands and that too i had to lower the gpu settings some to mids to get it work without dropping fps under 40....
as i don't plan to buy a new system in the future 2-3 years i guess, and it seems the 290x is struggling even now run 2017-18 games on high already and yes at the moment i plan to stay at 1080p.
the used Zotac AMP 1070 8GB is about 200$ and still have warranty for 1 year, and it seems it can boost a bit of performance?
Im more inclined to go with what pook said , save for a platform upgrade.

Really need to monitor usage figures while you game to know for sure, but its possible that your tapping into your page file at higher graphics settings with only 8 gb of ram.

You might be better off dropping an i7 and another 8 gigs of ram..

Try having hwinfo open while you play the games you like and check gpu, cpu and ram utilization.
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Mhh, 8G of ram may indeed be a show stopper for more recent games. I think the suggestion of checking what is bottlenecking your system is a good one. You are right that the 290x is getting a bit old, and a 1070 is a nice upgrade. You will first need to assert whether that the cpu can keep up with feeding frames to the gpu. For reference, you can check here how much frames you can gain: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...90X/3609vs2166

Be aware that the above is without other bottlenecks like memory or cpu, therefor check those things first.

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I'm in the same tugboat.

I had a leak and brokedown my custom loop and went back to air loosing one of my R9 290s.

So I have a 4770K @ 4.5GHz and one R9 290 OC'd attached to a 1440p 144Hz screen and a 1200p 60Hz screen. I usually play and stream at the same time so that second monitor is also sucking fps from my gaming sessions.

For instance I have everything on Very High while playing Dishonored 2. Like you, I'm staying with older games and biding my time.

The smartest thing to do for long term, as I plan not to upgrade for another 6-7 years again, is wait and see what AMD and Nvidia do next.

Technically, if I went with a 3700X and a 5700 XT, I'd be set long term for 1440p gaming. So I can spring for a computer now or wait a few months and see what AMD has to offer with the 5800 XT/5900 XT. If I'm even more patient, I can see what Nvidia will be doing next as well (most likely inflating the prices even more).

Personally, I'm hoping that once the 3950X and the 5800 XT are released, the 3700X and the 5700 XT will drop slightly in price and I will most likely go that way. Put a system together for long term 1440p gaming and by the time RTX/DXR is ready for prime time, I'll be in the market for my next upgrade.

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I'm in the same tugboat.

I had a leak and brokedown my custom loop and went back to air loosing one of my R9 290s.

So I have a 4770K @ 4.5GHz and one R9 290 OC'd attached to a 1440p 144Hz screen and a 1200p 60Hz screen. I usually play and stream at the same time so that second monitor is also sucking fps from my gaming sessions.

For instance I have everything on Very High while playing Dishonored 2. Like you, I'm staying with older games and biding my time.

The smartest thing to do for long term, as I plan not to upgrade for another 6-7 years again, is wait and see what AMD and Nvidia do next.

Technically, if I went with a 3700X and a 5700 XT, I'd be set long term for 1440p gaming. So I can spring for a computer now or wait a few months and see what AMD has to offer with the 5800 XT/5900 XT. If I'm even more patient, I can see what Nvidia will be doing next as well (most likely inflating the prices even more).

Personally, I'm hoping that once the 3950X and the 5800 XT are released, the 3700X and the 5700 XT will drop slightly in price and I will most likely go that way. Put a system together for long term 1440p gaming and by the time RTX/DXR is ready for prime time, I'll be in the market for my next upgrade.
Yeah exactly.
I don't plan to buy a new system for at least 2~3 years more and I have steady work so saving the upgrade cost ain't that much a difference to me.
I usually start play 2017+ Games as i have many to catch up and GTA V and starting to get some 2018 games and IMO my gpu limit me a bit there.. If the upgrade can get me at least 20% performance boost than i ain't have a problem to invest those 200$ in upgrading my GPU.

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Hey,
I would like to ask if an upgrade from 290X to 1070 8G would be worth it? As I'm not planning to buy or upgrade my system any more in the future and i need a bit of a slight of power increase to run modern games a bit better so i though of getting an used Zotac 1070 8GB AMP and replace my 290x for that slight performance boost. Is it worth it? the used 1070 8G is the same price as the new GTX 1660 for me.
Should i make the upgrade or it's not worth it?
I'd do it just for the lower noise and lower heat output, 1070's run really cool and quiet.
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Yeah exactly.
I don't plan to buy a new system for at least 2~3 years more and I have steady work so saving the upgrade cost ain't that much a difference to me.
I usually start play 2017+ Games as i have many to catch up and GTA V and starting to get some 2018 games and IMO my gpu limit me a bit there.. If the upgrade can get me at least 20% performance boost than i ain't have a problem to invest those 200$ in upgrading my GPU.
It's a more extreme example than most , but in battlefield 1 at 1080p on 64 player servers switching off hyperthreading on my 4790K /290X lightning cut my my minimum frame rate from the 80's to the 40's.

Example of the experience with hyperthreading disabled - locked at 4.4 ghz.

Have to figure out what is the limiting factor.
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