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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-22-2019, 12:19 AM - Thread Starter
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Using OLED TVs as gaming monitors seems to be getting popular

Up until about 4 years ago I was focused on getting the highest PPI possible, then I bought a 55" LG 4K OLED TV and ended up using it as my monitor. I never looked back. I converted my whole room to compensate for such a large display. I got a small desk on wheels and wall mounted the TV so I could sit as close or far from is as desired. A year later, I desired even bigger and upgraded to a newer 65" LG 4K OLED TV. I have since converted a few real life friends to swap from their monitors to "wall mounted OLED TV + desk on wheels" setups after they played on mine.

This week, news hit that the LG C9 OLED lineup will be getting GSYNC support... These TVs also have HDMI 2.1, which means they are capable of [email protected] when we get HDMI 2.1 GPUs (right now they can do [email protected] and [email protected]). It seems PC gamers are switching more and more to OLED TVs. My friend just bought a 77" LG C9 OLED for monitor usage. Even I thought it'd be too big. I went over there to see it and play some games, and in the end I went home and bought one as well. Oof! I never expected such incredibly fast input lag from an OLED TV. 13ms at [email protected] and 6ms at [email protected] Crystal clear motion with infinite contrast and pitch dark blacks. PC gaming on a 77" 4K OLED at 7-8' away is absolutely jaw dropping. Something you really have to experience to understand, and really something you can't come back from...

It's strange that the 55" C9 isn't even that much more expensive than a high end gaming monitor. I feel if they don't start offering monitors with PQ to match these TVs, then OLED TVs will become very popular in PC gaming communities. Is anyone else noticing this shift?

(Since I know someone will ask.. I've had no issues with burn-in these last 4 years of using an OLED TV as a monitor. The issues are blown way out of proportion, to the point where I think most of those people claiming it's an issue are paid to spread that information. There were days I'd play WoW and Factorio for 12 hours and not get burn-in. However, I do not use desktop icons and I auto-hide my taskbar just to be safe.)




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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-22-2019, 12:39 AM
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Using 4k televisions for gaming monitors has been relatively popular for I would say a few years now, people moving to investing in OLED doesnt seem like a new trend but much rather its literally the only place to get the technology.

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Burn in can happen on OLED is some cases like say if you have CNN on 8-12 hours a day every single day or if you are playing the same game that much with a non moving HUD
But i agree burn in on OLED is way overblown i had a plasma TV before and just leaving the plasma TV for a little as 10 min with a picture of something bright could leave shadows on the TV

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The issues is price, these OLED TVs are still far from affordable compared to PC monitors. Now for that size and technology it's not that tragic price but it's still steep.
People have been using TVs as "monitors", for gaming for since TVs exist, pre LCD era.
Using TV as an office monitor... aka not just for gaming... that's a problem, you have to sit far far far away for 55"+ and that's why many people want a 40-50" at most for 4k monitor usage TV.

What size do you use for gaming and haw far do you sit? As in distance in meters from panel to eye.

I would love a gigantic 77" OLED but they don't make one with 8k resolution do they, certainly not one I could afford in a lifetime.
If someone is buying TV for home... in EU, if rich enough they mostly get OLEDs, in US it seemed people still get mostly stupid LCDs. For casual gaming, yeah you don't need a monitor, just get PC/console and any TV.

But for PC usage, for work, web, graphics, documents, coding, ..., it is way more tricky.

The one thing OLEDs still miss is proper strobing, but then given their small brightness output, they are not gonna get that probably ever. Where as dual layer IPS LCDs especially with FALDs could finally make proper strobing if the manufacturers wanted to (they don't).
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I like my C9 but using a >55" TV as a monitor might sound good to somebody but that somebody is not me.

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Up until about 4 years ago I was focused on getting the highest PPI possible, then I bought a 55" LG 4K OLED TV and ended up using it as my monitor. I never looked back. I converted my whole room to compensate for such a large display. I got a small desk on wheels and wall mounted the TV so I could sit as close or far from is as desired. A year later, I desired even bigger and upgraded to a newer 65" LG 4K OLED TV. I have since converted a few real life friends to swap from their monitors to "wall mounted OLED TV + desk on wheels" setups after they played on mine.

This week, news hit that the LG C9 OLED lineup will be getting GSYNC support... These TVs also have HDMI 2.1, which means they are capable of [email protected] when we get HDMI 2.1 GPUs (right now they can do [email protected] and [email protected]). It seems PC gamers are switching more and more to OLED TVs. My friend just bought a 77" LG C9 OLED for monitor usage. Even I thought it'd be too big. I went over there to see it and play some games, and in the end I went home and bought one as well. Oof! I never expected such incredibly fast input lag from an OLED TV. 13ms at [email protected] and 6ms at [email protected] Crystal clear motion with infinite contrast and pitch dark blacks. PC gaming on a 77" 4K OLED at 7-8' away is absolutely jaw dropping. Something you really have to experience to understand, and really something you can't come back from...

It's strange that the 55" C9 isn't even that much more expensive than a high end gaming monitor. I feel if they don't start offering monitors with PQ to match these TVs, then OLED TVs will become very popular in PC gaming communities. Is anyone else noticing this shift?

(Since I know someone will ask.. I've had no issues with burn-in these last 4 years of using an OLED TV as a monitor. The issues are blown way out of proportion, to the point where I think most of those people claiming it's an issue are paid to spread that information. There were days I'd play WoW and Factorio for 12 hours and not get burn-in. However, I do not use desktop icons and I auto-hide my taskbar just to be safe.)
Nobody needs to get paid to tell the truth about this tv i have a 2017 65in oled and it has burn in so bad i will never spend my money again for any kind of oled, tv is trash for the money they want.

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One attribution is that we are starting to have gaming computers in the living room now, including me. Any TV that can do 120hz at 1080p or 1440p is a go, IE the Samsung TVs that support freesync for $600 on sale. As you stated, Monitors are getting to be as expensive as good TVs with high refresh rates as well, so why not get something than can handle regular room viewing and high end gaming? The only regular computer monitor I would ever want nowadays is an ultrawide monitor when I sit at the desk, but I sit at A desk 8 hours a day at work so doing that at home gets tiresome, especially right after work; but besides that, a capable 120hz tv has many more positives as a do it all, especially if it's the center piece of the entertainment center in a living room or bed room.

It's still nice to have both though. Monitor for when you're focused at a desk, and TV where you can lounge around.

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I'll be getting an LG C9 55" once it hits $1k or less.

I game in my living room and in a recliner so tv it is. Also the C9 is a 6ms latency tv so its a go in my book.

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