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post #14631 of 15500 (permalink) Old 05-06-2019, 05:42 PM
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uhmmm I don't know the difference from vdtta/d (maybe overshoot?), but on page 32 there are the vtt max, but it must be calculated
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uhmmm I don't know the difference from vdtta/d (maybe overshoot?), but on page 32 there are the vtt max, but it must be calculated
Analog / Digital PWM voltage controller.

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Analog / Digital PWM voltage controller.

understood, but I'm correct to say that the vtt max is on page 32, what do you think?
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I disconnected my drives and did some overclocking with Throttlestop to get a rough idea what this W3680 can do on a locked board (when all memory is installed I'll do 24hrs blend with 80% RAM). X29 ~3.9GHz @ 1.256v power throttled until I bumped the wattage from 130w to 150w, then it ran Prime for 4 hours before I stopped the test. X30 ~4GHz @ 1.264v had worker 12 crash at 175w, increased to 190w and it did 4 hours. Played around with X31 4150MHz @ 1.272v 190w (proof: https://valid.x86.fr/nitupv) and the QPI fluctuates as does the bus from 133 to 145...I don't know enough about the platform to know if that's acceptable or not but considering bus speed effects sata ports(?) and I'm using this as a file server, it seems like a bad idea. X32 multi immediately caused a BSOD and restart.

So it looks like 3.9GHz is the sweet spot. Not too shabby. 4GHz+ is tempting but 190w seems a lot to ask of a VRM that I'm guessing was meant to withstand 130w sustained. I could also try a per core overclock I suppose, but it would seem difficult to stress test.

Thaiphoon Burner seems to indicate the 8GB UDIMM is write protected, can't change the speed. So I can either get different UDIMMs and try again or give up on running ECC and buy more of these cheap 8GB UDIMMs and add one of my old 2GB sticks to make the board happy. The price is right, I'm going with the latter; 3 x 8GB ECC UDIMMs and 3 x 2GB of the old non-ECC DIMMs.

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I disconnected my drives and did some overclocking with Throttlestop to get a rough idea what this W3680 can do on a locked board (when all memory is installed I'll do 24hrs blend with 80% RAM). X29 ~3.9GHz @ 1.256v power throttled until I bumped the wattage from 130w to 150w, then it ran Prime for 4 hours before I stopped the test. X30 ~4GHz @ 1.264v had worker 12 crash at 175w, increased to 190w and it did 4 hours. Played around with X31 4150MHz @ 1.272v 190w (proof: https://valid.x86.fr/nitupv) and the QPI fluctuates as does the bus from 133 to 145...I don't know enough about the platform to know if that's acceptable or not but considering bus speed effects sata ports(?) and I'm using this as a file server, it seems like a bad idea. X32 multi immediately caused a BSOD and restart.

So it looks like 3.9GHz is the sweet spot. Not too shabby. 4GHz+ is tempting but 190w seems a lot to ask of a VRM that I'm guessing was meant to withstand 130w sustained. I could also try a per core overclock I suppose, but it would seem difficult to stress test.

Thaiphoon Burner seems to indicate the 8GB UDIMM is write protected, can't change the speed. So I can either get different UDIMMs and try again or give up on running ECC and buy more of these cheap 8GB UDIMMs and add one of my old 2GB sticks to make the board happy. The price is right, I'm going with the latter; 3 x 8GB ECC UDIMMs and 3 x 2GB of the old non-ECC DIMMs.


Raise the CPU voltage to 1.29v-1.32c range. Usually under that around 4GHz or above is not enough, unless you can’t cool it the CPU well.


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Raise the CPU voltage to 1.29v-1.32c range. Usually under that around 4GHz or above is not enough, unless you can’t cool it the CPU well.


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The board has a locked BIOS, so I believe I'm at the mercy of auto voltage. It would be interesting to see if there's an option buried in Throttlestop or an MSR tweak that can be done. But I don't think I'll running much over 4GHz anyway, the bus fluctuations make me concerned about the possibility of data loss (I use it as a file server).

Cooling isn't an issue at the moment. It ran roughly 55C with 3 fans at 1000RPM during Prime Blend. I do have the cover off the case while I wait for RAM and try to figure out what I want to do for fans for the (re)build. The Deltas I bought are junk. Not sure if they're knock offs or what. I'm debating whether or not to get new fan bearings or Yates or just use the assortment of fans that i have on hand.

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as mentioned earlier I no longer went with a xeon chip and dumped the 990x into a p6t6 ws revolution with 24gb of ram and it worked like a charm
very solid system

at what point does the qpi limit bandwith to high end gpu's?

I have another question since it's x58 related. I'm getting q-code 10, however everything works fine. It used to say AA at one point. Any ideas how to fix? Fresh install of windows 10 didn't fix it. Bios defaults did nothing either. Would reflashing the bios again with the same version help?

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as mentioned earlier I no longer went with a xeon chip and dumped the 990x into a p6t6 ws revolution with 24gb of ram and it worked like a charm
very solid system

at what point does the qpi limit bandwith to high end gpu's?

I have another question since it's x58 related. I'm getting q-code 10, however everything works fine. It used to say AA at one point. Any ideas how to fix? Fresh install of windows 10 didn't fix it. Bios defaults did nothing either. Would reflashing the bios again with the same version help?
Replied to your thread.

Just means it changed power states; nothing to worry about as far as I can tell. Try disabling hibernation in Windows if it's turned on.

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The board has a locked BIOS, so I believe I'm at the mercy of auto voltage. It would be interesting to see if there's an option buried in Throttlestop or an MSR tweak that can be done. But I don't think I'll running much over 4GHz anyway, the bus fluctuations make me concerned about the possibility of data loss (I use it as a file server).

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You can adjust voltage manually if you don't mind soldering. It's the same process as volt modding GPUs. I've done it on my Evga board to reduce vdroop.

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You can adjust voltage manually if you don't mind soldering. It's the same process as volt modding GPUs. I've done it on my Evga board to reduce vdroop.
Never thought about volt modding motherboards like GPUs (+rep). Very interesting. mllrkllr88's guide is giving me all kinds of bad ideas (many people think even a mild overclock on a server is crazy). Might have to see about shifting NAS duty to another machine so I can mess around with the W3680 more liberally.

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