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post #14671 of 14821 (permalink) Old 06-17-2019, 12:30 PM
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Find time to tinker arround some more with my uncore and ram settings with my mainrig :
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Find time to tinker arround some more with my uncore and ram settings with my mainrig :
what benefit is running 1200MHz on the DDR3 with such loose timings? CAS 10??
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A 8 GB stick ddr3 2400 with cl 10 is far away from loose, don't you think?
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post #14674 of 14821 (permalink) Old 06-18-2019, 10:00 AM
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A 8 GB stick ddr3 2400 with cl 10 is far away from loose, don't you think?
Sure, but with X58, you'll probably get better result with a lower frequency and tighter timings. Fact.
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post #14675 of 14821 (permalink) Old 06-18-2019, 11:15 AM
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not with this sticks, they do not scale that well with lower latencies. I have some gskill pis that do cl6 @ 2000 but bandwithwise they do not reach that high of copy speed (maxed out about 37gb/s with uncore of 4.4), read and write are about of the samel levels. latencywise they are better for sure (about 2,6ns compared the cl6 2000 vs cl10 2400
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Sure, but with X58, you'll probably get better result with a lower frequency and tighter timings. Fact.
You want the best frequency/timing ratio, with higher frequencies being better if the ratio is the same due to having more bandwidth. You do need higher uncore clocks to utilize the higher RAM frequency.

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post #14677 of 14821 (permalink) Old 06-19-2019, 08:27 AM
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This is very impressive. What RAM is this?

Also where did you come by a X58A-OC board? Those are a rare breed.

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not with this sticks, they do not scale that well with lower latencies. I have some gskill pis that do cl6 @ 2000 but bandwithwise they do not reach that high of copy speed (maxed out about 37gb/s with uncore of 4.4), read and write are about of the samel levels. latencywise they are better for sure (about 2,6ns compared the cl6 2000 vs cl10 2400

I agree with the issue of latencies and they are excellent for this platform, but in any case it's not worth spending too much money to buy them.
Combined with a w3680 with all its dividers are very fun.
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This is very impressive. What RAM is this?

Also where did you come by a X58A-OC board? Those are a rare breed.

You asked me that about half a year ago before ;D it is : The corsair rams are CMD32GX3M4A2400C11 11-13-13-31 1.65v ver.5.21 152802277189533

I have 3 of them, hunting them like a madman @ebay

@DooM3 , thanks for your post, i totally forgot to put back the new ram settings after findling around with the uncore, so the result is slightly better. I was not able to lower to 12-12 before, but some b2b cas delay adjustment sealed the deal.

I agree with you that going wild to get some 2xxx Rams is maybe not worth it, but the prices for used parts are dropping, if you are ok with 3x4gb sticks you can get them for a reasonable price. One problem is that you mostly do not know if 4gb sticks are dual ranked or single ranked (with 8gb sticks you can me most sure it is dual ranked) and single ranked is some kind of perfomance killer, i had some Avexirs OC Force 2666 Rams for my Gigabyte X58A-OC that lacks performance due single rank (but they are a nice to have with his board for the looks ;D).

What i find more problematic is that with most of the 4gb or 8gb highspeed rams (2400 or higher) the xmp profiles are not working, cause the rams are not to be build for x58, so you have to set all the sub timings manually. Even the Gskill Pis i have are not working with in triple channel with xmp and that are 2gb sticks of the x58 time.

But i think thats one point i like the plattform that much : you have so many possibilities to waste time for tweaking ;D
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I miss that Gulftown goodness. I think I will get one of those off of AliExpress. I have fast ram, but am limited to 1000mhz by bclk. I match that latency with lower clocks, but read, write, and copies are down compared to that shot at 1200mhz.

I have an E.S. Westmere that clocks up to 4800, you just don't get access to anything over x10 mem multi. Before I was willing to trade memory performance for cpu MHz because I have Hyper MGH-E, but now I don't need max cpu performance, and I want to play with some ram that I have laying around, most of it doesn't work well with my z77

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