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post #14811 of 14823 (permalink) Old 08-12-2019, 03:52 PM
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i dont know whats going on, but my numbers seem low this time around. I would say they are nerfing the speed of these xeons like others suspected in windows 10 - have an old cpu physics run from 2015(win7) thats on lower end model xeons and lower clocks but anywas here are the two i have atm new and old
Probably intel security patches that lose you some points.

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So, I'm having trouble overclocking my Xeon X5650. I'm using a MSI X58 Big Bang Xpower with bios v1.7, 16GB of mixed ram clocked at 1333mhz. The issue I'm having is that I can't adjust the uncore ratio. It changes when I adjust the memory ratio but that's part of the problem. Since these xeons aren't unlocked. adjusting the blck frequency changes everything so it makes it difficult to keep the dram frequency as close to 1333mhz as possible while keeping the uncore frequency reasonable. Can anyone help? I just want to get the X5650 upto 4Ghz to it runs smoother.
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So, I'm having trouble overclocking my Xeon X5650. I'm using a MSI X58 Big Bang Xpower with bios v1.7, 16GB of mixed ram clocked at 1333mhz. The issue I'm having is that I can't adjust the uncore ratio. It changes when I adjust the memory ratio but that's part of the problem. Since these xeons aren't unlocked. adjusting the blck frequency changes everything so it makes it difficult to keep the dram frequency as close to 1333mhz as possible while keeping the uncore frequency reasonable. Can anyone help? I just want to get the X5650 upto 4Ghz to it runs smoother.
There are a lot of posts in this thread on over locking your exact cpu. I personally have a x5670. First of all, what kind of cooler do you have? 2nd, the only way to do the overclock is with the blck, but you should take the time and check the max of everything individually so you can find your best overclock.

I used to have an i7 950 with an Asus p6x58d-e, and have since "upgraded" to an x5670 with an Asus p6x58d premium. I don't know the specifics of your motherboard, but I was able to follow miahallens 3 step over locking guide for both of my setups and with the i7 I got it to 4.0 GHz stable, and with the 5670 I've got it to 4.2 GHz stable. Both with an air cooler (hyper 212 Evo) and both could run 24/7. I hope this helps. If I were you I'd take the time to follow the guide, especially since this is older tech now we're getting closer to the end of lifespan, so these chips may not be able to take a beating as much as they could 9 years ago.

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There are a lot of posts in this thread on over locking your exact cpu. I personally have a x5670. First of all, what kind of cooler do you have? 2nd, the only way to do the overclock is with the blck, but you should take the time and check the max of everything individually so you can find your best overclock.

I used to have an i7 950 with an Asus p6x58d-e, and have since "upgraded" to an x5670 with an Asus p6x58d premium. I don't know the specifics of your motherboard, but I was able to follow miahallens 3 step over locking guide for both of my setups and with the i7 I got it to 4.0 GHz stable, and with the 5670 I've got it to 4.2 GHz stable. Both with an air cooler (hyper 212 Evo) and both could run 24/7. I hope this helps. If I were you I'd take the time to follow the guide, especially since this is older tech now we're getting closer to the end of lifespan, so these chips may not be able to take a beating as much as they could 9 years ago.

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There's over 14k posts in this thread but from a quick skim, many other people seem to be able to change the uncore ratio on their boards so I want someone with the same board and chip, or similar chip, to give advice on how to proceed. I tried searching my board with the website's search function but I couldn't turn up anyone else that commented about it.

I tried to get into wherever those links lead to and I just get popups and stuck on loading screens. I don't think those links are valid anymore.

I don't know what the heatsink is but its one from thermalright with nickel plated base and heatpipes, of which there are 6. I have two 120mm corsair fans zip tied to it because it didn't have any fan clips with it when I got it.
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There's over 14k posts in this thread but from a quick skim, many other people seem to be able to change the uncore ratio on their boards so I want someone with the same board and chip, or similar chip, to give advice on how to proceed. I tried searching my board with the website's search function but I couldn't turn up anyone else that commented about it.

I tried to get into wherever those links lead to and I just get popups and stuck on loading screens. I don't think those links are valid anymore.

I don't know what the heatsink is but its one from thermalright with nickel plated base and heatpipes, of which there are 6. I have two 120mm corsair fans zip tied to it because it didn't have any fan clips with it when I got it.
Looking at the manual, it should be under the Cell Menu. Scroll down and look for Uncore Ratio. You might also need to set the QPI Link Speed to a lower value depending on how high you set the BCLK.

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Looking at the manual, it should be under the Cell Menu. Scroll down and look for Uncore Ratio. You might also need to set the QPI Link Speed to a lower value depending on how high you set the BCLK.
QPI is set it its minimum value at 4.8GT, CPU multiplier is 20, blck is 180. I'm unable to change the uncore ratio because its forced to auto and the option is greyed out. 1800mhz translate to a uncore of 3.6Ghz so its at a 1 to 1 ratio with the cpu clock.

You can see that memory ratio is unlocked and changing it does affect uncore but 3 is the smallest value I'm able to use there.

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i dont know whats going on, but my numbers seem low this time around. I would say they are nerfing the speed of these xeons like others suspected in windows 10 - have an old cpu physics run from 2015(win7) thats on lower end model xeons and lower clocks but anywas here are the two i have atm new and old




EDIT: i just went and looked up older runs, i found one in Jan 2019 on win10 where my performance is decent but still lower scored 20409 on the same cpus ram mobo and a vega 64. then when i ran it in march on a 1080ti i was down to 19480 cpu score...... so i wonder if this is right around the time the new windows revisions rolled out.
It is the spectre and meltdown patches disable them and run Firestrike again.
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Soon as i get time i will test this stuff.... may even throw win7 in the mix and just compare across to see how bad it is.

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win7 has those patches as well,when you will updated .

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