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post #14871 of 14983 (permalink) Old 09-26-2019, 08:28 PM
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Yeah, not all chips are golden. A lot of them top out at 4.2-4.4 So if you can do that comfortably, or better.. then your doin alright. Chances are that the chips with the higher multi will scale further than one shipped with a lower multi.. but not always. My x5690 E.S. will bench all day at 4800mhz, but I have to kick it in the mosfets with closer to 1.6v, and to do that, I have to wait for winter months. After 1.55v or so it becomes a bit of a bear to handle. You wont be doing that with a 212 Evo lol

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post #14872 of 14983 (permalink) Old 09-26-2019, 11:05 PM
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Also idk if this affects my temp but back when I first got this mobo which is a week ago, I cleaned the heatsinks and replace thermal paste on the NB and then I noticed something black on top of the left side of the cpu next to the IO shield. Now I realize that must be where the VRM are right? and that black thing must basically be a very old thermal pad right? It's stickied into the mobo not under the heat sink so I didn't bother to remove it. Hmm I should have replaced it, does anyone know what size I should be buying?
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post #14873 of 14983 (permalink) Old 09-28-2019, 06:22 AM
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It could also be your motherboard. Mine started to struggle maintaining 200BCLK. I had it on 24/7 for 10 years. Overclocked. Before switching to X299, the X58 board would only do 198BCLK regardless of what I set in the BIOS
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post #14874 of 14983 (permalink) Old 09-28-2019, 11:11 AM
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Well moving to a Ryzen 7 3700X, after having this X58A-UD7 for a month away from 10 years. Started off with a i7 920 then moved to a X5660. I had a graphics card not worth mentioning as it wasn't a gaming card then moved to a GTX 580 to a R9 290 and then a R9 Fury X to a Rx Vega 56 and currently a Rx 5700 XT that will move to my new Ryzen system once the parts arrive sometime next week.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Owterspace View Post
Yeah, not all chips are golden. A lot of them top out at 4.2-4.4 So if you can do that comfortably, or better.. then your doin alright. Chances are that the chips with the higher multi will scale further than one shipped with a lower multi.. but not always. My x5690 E.S. will bench all day at 4800mhz, but I have to kick it in the mosfets with closer to 1.6v, and to do that, I have to wait for winter months. After 1.55v or so it becomes a bit of a bear to handle. You wont be doing that with a 212 Evo lol
Personally I left mine comfortably sitting at 3.9Ghz at the present moment. 4Ghz vs 4.2Ghz vs 3.9Ghz it's all ******* mind games really, in the real world you won't notice a damn difference.

As for ram settings and uncore (mine's at 3.7Ghz) - that's a different story.

PS. Also regarding temps as mentioned before - some chips that require less vcore actually run hotter offsetting the difference. I can bench mine 1.312v @ 4.35Ghz no issues but it heats up like crazy. I did lucked out with QPI though which is insane in this chip.

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post #14877 of 14983 (permalink) Old 09-30-2019, 07:35 PM
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Personally I left mine comfortably sitting at 3.9Ghz at the present moment. 4Ghz vs 4.2Ghz vs 3.9Ghz it's all ******* mind games really, in the real world you won't notice a damn difference.

As for ram settings and uncore (mine's at 3.7Ghz) - that's a different story.

PS. Also regarding temps as mentioned before - some chips that require less vcore actually run hotter offsetting the difference. I can bench mine 1.312v @ 4.35Ghz no issues but it heats up like crazy. I did lucked out with QPI though which is insane in this chip.
Things get noticeable when you add a ghz or more to your core clock, in conjunction with bclk and uncore mixed with mem speed and latency. That's where x58 is great. If you have a good board, and excellent ram, that combination will let you fully exploit your cpu on all fronts. I gave up some memory performance for excellent core and uncore performance. I had a 970 that did not appreciate anything over 4.1ghz @ 1.35.. 4.2 took 1.5 I hear you on the heat.. Mine takes some volts to get things going, but it runs cool, and doesn't really start making decent heat until 1.4v for 4.4, but scales well up to 4.8 where it will bench all day @ 1.5875 but that's where it stops.. anything after that is hit and miss on being able to post. These days it runs @ stock+turbo 133/3200/6400 for my kids with a 970 ftw and some super talent hypers running @ 1333 6-6-6-20 1T 1.6v. its still pretty snappy, and manhandles roblox.

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Hello.

I got a question.

I got an X5670 running at 4.1GHz with 24GB's of RAM. I'm Prime95 stable 24h+.
I haven't tinkered with my system for some time but yesterday I wanted to check my CPU load for some tasks and accidentally found that I'm running at stock 3.3GHz. So I booted into BIOS and when opening the overclocking settings portion I got the red message saying that the PC had boot failures so the settings were set back to default.

I was wondering what might cause boot failure while my overclock is stable? My PC is basically running 24/7 so I'm not sure when did it have any boot failures. Could a power cut or force shut down cause a boot failure?
If any other more specific info is needed let me know.
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it might be nothing ,maybe once pc didnt boot normal so it just run safe mode,monitor it the next days to see if your overclock settings reset .

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Quote: Originally Posted by AeroZ View Post
Hello.

I got a question.

I got an X5670 running at 4.1GHz with 24GB's of RAM. I'm Prime95 stable 24h+.
I haven't tinkered with my system for some time but yesterday I wanted to check my CPU load for some tasks and accidentally found that I'm running at stock 3.3GHz. So I booted into BIOS and when opening the overclocking settings portion I got the red message saying that the PC had boot failures so the settings were set back to default.

I was wondering what might cause boot failure while my overclock is stable? My PC is basically running 24/7 so I'm not sure when did it have any boot failures. Could a power cut or force shut down cause a boot failure?
If any other more specific info is needed let me know.
make sure your RAM is stable, increase it to 1.66v, maybe give a little more QPI/VTT voltage(uncore).

Also if you have LLC set to maximum, on some boards it would boost the voltage at load, but the equation was screwy and would end up undervolting the CPU when not under load. Both good things to check.
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