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post #15311 of 15348 (permalink) Old 06-26-2020, 05:22 AM
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check out my tutorial for x58 nvme booting the easy way!
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post #15312 of 15348 (permalink) Old 06-26-2020, 05:32 AM - Thread Starter
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Results may vary!!!
you never know what will happen, 4.2 stable tested for 12 hours the other night left my pc on for 12 hours stress testing, the parts are so cheap we can blow them up if we want, i buy x58 items in pairs for that reason. i have 4 back up cpu's and 1 back up mobo, 1 mobo in the mail on its way to me!!!!
Thank you for proving my point with a fine example. It's revolving door....

--People buy several CPUs and other parts leaving some enthusiast left out.
--People then go on "blow them up" if they want even if they truly don't know what they are doing or simply reading guides\get help from other novices online. Who cares how "I" get my clocks as long as I get them is the mindset, if it dies....just dump it back in the market.
--A lot of people re-sell those blown up parts online for some other sucker to buy...ruining one chip or MB (or BOTH)....at a time......rinse repeat.

The X58 price is good, but this is why I recommend most people to just upgrade to a cheaper Ryzen instead of wasting the money on this platform now. It has been used and abused for years. Even if people manage to get a decent OC you have to wonder how long it would last and how much better you would had been if you had just spend an extra $50-$100 on modern tech with knowing that it's hasn't been punished harshly over the years.

Also you might want to go back and delete or edit your previous posts to "duplicate" or something. I see that you are new here and still getting used to the weird posting behavior on OCN. I still have issues with from time to time. Welcome to OCN , I suppose you will like it here more today than previous years.....I guess.

Nice Tutorial and I'm sure it would be helpful to so. I've never had to use a tutorial\software\firmware to boot to my NVMe. I guess if I ever wanted to upgrade my NVMe to the latest and greatest in 2020 I would need to follow a guide or something, but I'm sure I won't be changing my NVMe until I leave this platform and upgrade.



Also I would like to clarify one of my statements from earlier when I stated:

Kana Maru:
I do agree moving the X79 and higher would get much more performance


Jumping to the X79 won't gain you a lot of performance or "much more performance" since I actually did the calculations for "clock to clock" performance against SBE and Ivy Bridge-E back in 2014-2015.

X5660 vs High-End SB-E & IVB-E Benchmarks & Comparisons
https://overclock-then-game.com/inde...owall=&start=5

In some situations the X79 will be better for more modern tech and games. X79 issue with me was the price. Especially if you compare the X79 price against the X58 price & performance.

Getting extreme OCs on the X79 would gain much better results yet those results wouldn't be daily usage. You'll need LN2 and exotic cooling to go well above 5Ghz. It would just be a e-peen show as usual in the overclocking area.

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It's all coming back to me now, the SR-2 needs extra juice on the IOH to stay stable above 150-160BCLK...now I need to find out what hard reboots mean, VTT or IOH as I'm really skimping on those, 1.325V both atm. The SR-2 needs a very careful treatment or it will get amnesia if you go too far with VTT/IOH voltages...

The 5690's will do 4.3 at about 1.33V for 1h of P95 Blend (haven't tested longer). Funny enough 4.42GHz runs at 1.352V (under load) but they start to creep up above 80*C in P95 w. AVX and it will lock up when smaller FFT's start.

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My X58 refused to recognize any SSDs or hard drives connected to onboard SATA ports. And onboard Ethernet port did not detect network cables. At first, I thought it might be a broken IOH chip (South Bridge), so I inserted a PCIe to SATA card, thought an external SATA card could've solved it, but it still refused to recognize any drives connected to that card. After I replace the old PSU, all issues were gone. I don't see why a PSU failure could cause such problems. Who would've thought it was a PSU problem? It doesn't make any sense to me.
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Weird, have you measured the voltages with a DMM? The voltage might have been way off on some rails. Still, that doesn't explain why the issues with ethernet since that's powered from the ATX24Pin and maybe even from the EPS connector.

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I'm now in process of arranging an even funkier setup...SR-X with dual 2690 ES and 96 gigs of RAM.
Second SR-2 got lost (?) at the sorting centre in Germany, right after the seller posted it, already filled in a complaint and they're going to investigate. Hermes has been the worst shipping company ever, it's a massive box with a LL P80 armorsuit and other parts...how do you even manage to get it 'stuck'.
I've also contacted a seller listing a boxed Skulltrail with dual QX9775's, oh boy if that works out...shame you can buy 2 SR-2's for a single Skulltrail, a non-molested one is rare as hen's teeth and go for bonkers amounts of cash. Same counts for the SR boards albeit not for the SR-X as that one wouldn't OC at all due to locked SKU's.

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Current OC results on the SR-2, haven't touched the memory yet but that's just cheap Hynix junk, 1333 CL9. I'd rather run 6x4 than those dual rank 12x2 Dominators.
In case someone asks "Wow you have X5690's why not 4.5-4.6GHz?!?!" Simple - because this hardware is rare and valuable. This is a completely safe spec with 1.329/1.341Vcore and 1.275 VTT, temps are comfortable with a single 120mm stuck to each Megahalems cooler.
For stress testing I also have additional fans blowing directly onto the VRM, which is critical for the top right socket that only has a puny VRM heatsink with a single HP.

I think I will leave the CPU freq for what it is now, SR-2 has a weird way of telling you something is wrong, instead of BSOD'ing it completely freezes. It doesn't like something in my system, maybe the GT1030 or the Silverstone PCIE to M.2 NVMe adapter as I'm seeing random WHEA corrected warnings in Windows logs. It's not OC related as the same thing happens on stock settings and is not USB3.0/SATA/eSATA related.
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My X58 refused to recognize any SSDs or hard drives connected to onboard SATA ports. And onboard Ethernet port did not detect network cables. At first, I thought it might be a broken IOH chip (South Bridge), so I inserted a PCIe to SATA card, thought an external SATA card could've solved it, but it still refused to recognize any drives connected to that card. After I replace the old PSU, all issues were gone. I don't see why a PSU failure could cause such problems. Who would've thought it was a PSU problem? It doesn't make any sense to me.
the clover bootloader inside the aioboot software might be able to load your drives, if you copy the driver inf files from your disk manufacturer or just use whats already inside,copy the driver inf files into the driver-off drivers64 directory inside the bootloader usb try giving it a boot, its worth doing before spending some money on new disks, clover will see all bootable partitions on drives and if not you can try booting a windows usb media tool from the clover bootloader inside aioboot and try installing windows to one of them from the installatiuon menu.
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Wow, that crappy and mismatched OEM Hynix 1333 CL9 1.5V RAM is pretty fly...1660MHz CL9 -9-9-24 CR1 @ 1.64V, also upped the uncore to 3155MHz.
The weather is bad and the temp. dropped to 18*C ambient, lovely day for some benching.

Not sure if it's an SR-2 or X5690 thing but in the end the high volts folks seem to use turn out to be a complete overkill. Matched both CPU's to 1.34Vcore, 1.275V VTT, 1.3V IOH and RAM set to 1.61/1.62 in BIOS.
I suspect the low BCLK needed with the X5690 is being the key here.
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I think a lot of people don't know what is causing instability so they crank up everything.

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So in the end both CPU's needed 1.35Vcore for 4.32GHz. Perfect, still within limits. VTT between 1.3 and 1.275V and 1.3V IOH.
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My x5690 used to do 4200 with 1.325, but now needs 1.35. And .05v for every 100mhz up from there. Not sure if its an age thing, or a mitigation thing. To be fair it is an E.S. I've had it for 10 years. All of your voltages are still very conservative. Which is good, you don't want to kill that board.

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