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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-14-2018, 07:02 AM - Thread Starter
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When should I upgrade my 4770k?

I've been putting this off for awhile. My 4770K runs at 4.3Ghz and it's just pretty OK. I am beginning to detect its sluggishness, and despite having all SSD storage with RAID 0, I feel like something in my rig is beginning to show its age. I am assuming it's the 4770K. So my question is, when is the right time to upgrade? I am planning to wait for Ryzen 3000 series or whatever Intel has to counter that. One of the things I would like to do is encode HEVC x265 video and Ryzen seems to have very poor performance on that. For this reason, I am most likely going to go with an Intel solution unless AMD is able to improve on existing HEVC performance. I am also trying to wait for DDR4 and NVME to come down in price. The components in my system that will be carryover are EVGA 1080Ti FTW3, EVGA 1KW Supernova G3 PSU, Case, tons of 1TB and 500GB SSD for game storage. Things I need to upgrade are

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*120mm AIO cooler
*1-2TB NVME OS storage and most often played games

So is the market in a decent position for these components, or will there be considerable changes next year?




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Dont buy a rubbish 120mm CLC cooler
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...lc-cooler.html

Even a $30-40 air cooler can do a better job be more quiet and be more reliable
Unless you have some tiny case with no room for an air cooler dont bother with a CLC cooler it costs more and its worse in every way

Edit: as for your G3 PSU if you are not already aware
https://www.overclock.net/forum/31-p...e-problem.html

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Your CPU is just as fast now as it was when you bought it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
Dont buy a rubbish 120mm CLC cooler
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...lc-cooler.html

Even a $30-40 air cooler can do a better job be more quiet and be more reliable
Unless you have some tiny case with no room for an air cooler dont bother with a CLC cooler it costs more and its worse in every way

Edit: as for your G3 PSU if you are not already aware
https://www.overclock.net/forum/31-p...e-problem.html
This is great! Thanks! I will check it all out. I like the idea of the CLC, but I know it has been well documented that they are not exactly an amazing performer compared to the best air coolers that are out there. However, I have the latest 120mm Noctua NF-A12x25 fans which are supposed to be remarkably better than any of the competition when it comes to volume of air moved at low noise. This is a variable that I never see any reviewer testing. I have never, and I will likely never, use the stock fans that come with a CLC. For this reason, I don't believe the data out there truly represents what is possible with a CLC in terms of performance-noise. What is important to me is raw performance. Which air cooler or CLC is capable of dissipating the most thermal energy within reasonable conditions? According to the graph in your link the CLC are still at the top of that list. I still need to read more about it and when I ultimately take a plunge into rebuilding, I'm sure there will be something new out there. I've had my Corsair H110i running strong for 5 years.

As for the G3 PSU, I've had no issues that I can detect. If I am under heavy load, it's because I am gaming and I have closed back headphones on. If there is some variability in the fan profile I will not be able to hear it.




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I went from a high end air cooler to middle of the road AIO and performance is identical and so are noise levels. If you want an AIO get an AIO - they just aren't great bang for buck and all their pumps fail at some point.

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Why wait? I dont expect the new arc to be that much more powerful, unlike the gpu side. You already want intel, so i9-9900K.

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The problem with CLC coolers is not the fans its the pump which are cheap garbage and as someone else said in another thread a grown healthy man can urinate about as hard as the pump on a CLC cooler can move the liquid

The pump is louder than the fans and its also the least reliable part on a CLC so adding Noctua fans is not going to make the cooler more quiet or reliable
if you want an all in one kit EK and Swiftech sells kits which are far better

Edit: a friend of mine who use his PC for editing and other heavy work stuff just replaced his 280mm CLC cooler because the pump could not keep up and he had temps as high as 90c
He just bought a Noctua NH-D15 and the highest he saw his temps at after installing that was 65c so 25c cooler than with the CLC cooler

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just wait for amd ryzen 3000 series or for the new intel 10nm chips. Should be out with 6-12 months.

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The problem with CLC coolers is not the fans its the pump which are cheap garbage and as someone else said in another thread a grown healthy man can urinate about as hard as the pump on a CLC cooler can move the liquid

The pump is louder than the fans and its also the least reliable part on a CLC so adding Noctua fans is not going to make the cooler more quiet or reliable
if you want an all in one kit EK and Swiftech sells kits which are far better

Edit: a friend of mine who use his PC for editing and other heavy work stuff just replaced his 280mm CLC cooler because the pump could not keep up and he had temps as high as 90c
He just bought a Noctua NH-D15 and the highest he saw his temps at after installing that was 65c so 25c cooler than with the CLC cooler
If that's the case. The CLC had to be defective. CLCs can loose liquid over time and with alot of air, the cooling capabilities will be reduced. My father has a H110 on a 5820K. Both from release. Nothing has changed for him. I ran CLCs a couple of years until I got into custom watercooling. Another buddy also has a corsair something 240mm with his 5820K. His chip I've clocked to 4.5 ghz, and it has been running fine for several years now.

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I dunno if I would bother upgrading a 4770k unless I needed more processing cores.


what ram do you have? what speed is your cache currently at?




Might be worth getting a nice quiet used Noctua D15, going for a few hundred more MHz on the core, bump the cache higher, and see if you can find a good deal on 2400 or 2666mhz ddr3


Although, 2700x amd bundles will most likely drop a bit in price once new ryzen arch is announced in a few weeks.
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