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post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-24-2018, 08:22 PM
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What do you mean it's a deal breaker?

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post #22 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-24-2018, 08:23 PM
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Well I'm a little more on the strapped side right now, unfortunately. And need to and should be trying to find some work, you know how it goes lol. I'm at loss with what the hell to try to do anymore lol
What do you mean by the 2600X is a deal breaker?

Also, it looks like yours clocks quite well. Your system is really not lacking any.


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What do you mean by the 2600X is a deal breaker?

Also, it looks like yours clocks quite well. Your system is really not lacking any.

Not at all...Very happy with it...another fun one to play with. But I just meant. That's a great pricing for Performance like that. And shouldn't need anything for sometime...I got so much junk still and had even more.

I still need to find a board that will Clock the X5650...Still even have that thing still and the lowly 5520...good retro one that lol
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post #24 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-25-2018, 03:08 PM
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9700k for games , especially older games which don't use threads properly. Ryzen if you do games and you want good rendering/ripping/encoding etc. Get more cores.
Honestly the difference in the new games from the intel vs ryzen is very small with new optimized games. The older games are where you see the difference , where IPC makes a biggg difference because the game only uses a core or two, and no dx12 or other API which takes advantage of cores.
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Quote: Originally Posted by f00zz View Post
9700k for games , especially older games which don't use threads properly.

That reasoning makes 0 sense. By "not use threads properly" I'm assuming you're talking about games that use few threads? Windows will handle thread scheduling fine on its own and single thread performance is identical between the CPUs OP is asking about.

Even if Windows decides to regress and do a bad job for some reason you can set thread affinity manually.

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9700k for games , especially older games which don't use threads properly.

That reasoning makes 0 sense. By "not use threads properly" I'm assuming you're talking about games that use few threads? Windows will handle thread scheduling fine on its own and single thread performance is identical between the CPUs OP is asking about.

Even if Windows decides to regress and do a bad job for some reason you can set thread affinity manually.
Additionally the 2700, 9700 and 9900 have the same core count lol.

Even in newer games the difference between Intel's 8 core and AMDs can be quite large. This isn't something you'll see if you're only loading up the GPU but might if you optimize for frame rate and IQ.
Nothing is wrong with current Ryzen but I really do prefer a constant 120fps in fast paced games. You can lower settings to help the GPU but there's little that can be done for the CPU. I'm currently in a situation where the 8700k, 9900k and 9700k are the only solid upgrade options, hopefully we'll see that change very soon.

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The key is generally not which brands are good but which specific products are. Motherboards and GPUs are perfect examples of companies having everything from golden to garbage function/quality.
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I love my 9700K, it chews through anything I throw at it. Just make sure you can keep it cool as the heat output is SO much greater than my old delidded 4790K.

I noticed a very nice boost in FPS with the same card (was a 1070 at the time of upgrade)

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I'm not doing it....I still don't like how monopolistic they are...They could of easily came down with Prices and offered something Powerful in the 200-250$ range but they don'tttttt. When you have a company that does deviant **** lol.

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Doing what? I was referring to the OP who plays 120 and 144. And the other dude's comment.

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Well, thanks for the input guys!

If I upgrade, it will be a 9700k, and game time decision if I cheap out for the 8700k. As for the cooling solution, i'll have to use the 240mm Enermax I have for the time being.

I've ALWAYS done the "ill buy the i5 or a cheaper CPU and upgrade" routine, it never works out, because of motherboard features, or I end up jumping ship to a new platform early. The ryzen stuff seems to offer great value, but I have spent a fair amount of time researching my intel build and I don't know if AMD makes sense for my use case. It may from a cost savings perspective because i don't exactly game as much as I used to, I just want it to be awesome when I do. I'm sure just about any 6+ core CPU from the last 2 generations on either side will do the trick.

Thanks again for the input. Looking forward to this upgrade performance-wise, but not for the hit to the wallet. LOL

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