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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-12-2019, 10:22 AM - Thread Starter
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I'm putting together a new computer for a friend of mine. He's doesn't play any intense games but I want to get him something that will last awhile. He's currently playing Final Fantasy XV and it's so jumpy on his old 560TI I'm offended. I figure a RTX 2060 will make a lot of sense for him. He would be gaming at 1080P and will use this computer for a long time (note he's still gaming on a 560Ti...). Being quiet is definitely a priority.

Case: Fractal Design Refine R6
Power Supply: Corsair RM650X (2018)
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 6
CPU: Intel i5-9600K
CPU Cooler: Cryorig H7
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200
GPU: RTX 2060 (Model TBD once they are released)
SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 500GB

Total should be around $1,300 with the GPU. The original budget he gave me was $1,200 but I'll be persuasive... I was hoping to squeeze in a 2070 but I'm already over budget with the 2060. I'm the least confident about the motherboard, there isn't a lot out there right now on the z390 boards. Overclock would be moderate, if at all. I originally was going to get a Noctua D-15s but figured that might be overkill (I love Noctua). I've been seeing good things about the H7 which is half the price.

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CPU – 165$

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

Motherboard - 157$

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

RAM – 130$

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...Q5110ZKT&psc=1

GPU – 460$

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

SDD – 90$

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

CASE - 168$

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PSU – 90$

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1260$ before taxes

NOTE: Replaced GPU to a GTX 1070Ti and the PSU to a Corsair RMX 650 as suggested by others.

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Well IMO you're better off with a GTX 1070 Ti.


For motherboard, the Gigabyte Aorus Pro (or Ultra with debug LED and more PCB layers) is a stronger board than Z390 Phantom Gaming 6. The only main advantage the Phantom Gaming 6 has is the debug code LED , versus a status LED that indicates CPU/VGA/RAM.


For RAM, Corsair Vengeance is very rarely Samsung B-die. I would look into GSkill Ripjaws or GSkill TridentZ as they tend to be cheaper than Corsair RAM yet have a higher chance of being B-die (especially for 3600+MHz and 3200C14). Obviously, go with whatever is cheaper as Intel builds cannot make use of faster & tighter timing on RAM as much as Ryzen can.



For cooler, you can get stronger coolers for the ~$40 price, such as Thermalright's 5 x 6mm heatpipe True Spirit 140 or the Scythe Mugen Max or Mugen 5 with 6x6mm heatpipes and 120mm fan form factor. The Fractal Design Define R6 has plenty of room for all CPU coolers.

$42 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...22B-002R-00001
$43 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA9ZH3S91415

$48 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA9ZH6GN8650


If you're willing to go with a smaller brand, there's also the Reeven Justice. Oddly enough it is sold by Scythe USA on Newegg so maybe they share a supplier. There's some coolers that are around $35 or $25 in the case of the Hyper 212 but the large step-up in performance from a $30 cooler to a $40ish cooler is so large that it isn't worth considering a $30 120mm fan cooler with 4x heatpipes.



Also unless you need to build now, I think you're better of waiting for a Ryzen 3rd gen CPU since the single threaded performance is going to be on par with i9-9900k. The Ryzen 2nd gen is already close in terms of performance when you take into account the 1st gen numbers and the threading goes up to 8 cores: https://www.techspot.com/article/156...cpu-benchmark/ , https://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-t...v-test-gpu-cpu

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Sory but that EVGA PSU is rubbish so please dont buy that
The Corsair RMx is much much better, the Seasonic Foucs is also a very good option and might be cheaper

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For that much of a video card which I presume you're going to be running for significant durations for gaming, I would think you want a higher wattage and better quality power supply. At least a 750W power supply. This would also give you some headroom if you decide to overclock and drive more power through the CPU.

The 650W PS probably won't run out of power for your build, but for stability and longevity, you don't want to run a power supply anywhere near its limit.
At least a 750w PSU for a 2060 and an i5?
Wut?
Nothing wrong with using one it but it's not in anyway needed. Stability? Somehow a rig that can only draw 400ish watts with the GPU and CPU running a stress test when OC'd is going to be more stable if you have more wattage available? No, you'll have better stability and reliability with a low ripple/tightly regulated unit but adding moar wattz isn't going to do anything.



As for the build there's nothing wrong with what you've picked other than a few things:
I'd opt for a Seasonic Focus 550w unit, often you'll see the 650w version for $5 or $10 more but it's not necessary by any means.

You could also get away with a cheaper SSD, they've come far enough that you're not going to notice much difference between them on a gaming rig where you only need to worry about loading times and maybe boot time.
Not sure where you're shopping but the ram you picked was $130 on newegg while this is -$10 while it's on sale:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16820232181


I think I'd go with a 1070TI for the extra VRAM as it would make a much better 1440p card. Nothing wrong with 1080p but upgrading to 1440p/144hz IPS was the single best upgrade I've ever done. Plus Nvidia nerfed the 1070TI by forcing all AIBs to keep the same clockspeed so it wouldn't be as fast as a 1080. That means you can use Nvinspector to add +100mhz or so to the core and set the clocks as a start up task. No gaudy overclocking software running all the time that way, plus I get better results using it than anything else and it's something most people would have installed anyway if they have an Nvidia GPU.

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For that much of a video card which I presume you're going to be running for significant durations for gaming, I would think you want a higher wattage and better quality power supply. Perhaps a 750W power supply (does not cost much more than a 650). This would also give you some future headroom if you decide to overclock and drive more power through the CPU or ever upgrade to a video card or CPU that uses more power.
I assume this is ignorance because everything you said is simply not true and it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about because power draw of the system in the OP is nowhere near even 450 watts at full load and that WITH overclocking!

Adding more power when its not needed is not going to change anything its not going to run better or stable thats a bunch of nonsense
If you want to spend more money buy a better PSU with better voltage regulation and ripple suppression not something with a bigger number on the side

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I assume this is ignorance because everything you said is simply not true and it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about because power draw of the system in the OP is nowhere near even a 450 watts at full load and that WITH overclocking!

Adding more power when its not needed is not going to change anything its not going to run better or stable thats a bunch of nonsense
If you want to spend more money buy a better PSU with better voltage regulation and ripple suppression not something with a bigger number on the side
Just curious, why do you have a 750W in your system? Just going for more than you need? Why?

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Just curious, why do you have a 750W in your system? Just going for more than you need? Why?
Because i had two SLI setups in the system before and those cards needed that much power
750 watt is way overkill for my system now i know that but i cant be bothered to replace a working PSU with remaining warranty

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Just curious, why do you have a 750W in your system? Just going for more than you need? Why?
Oh wow, you really got him good with that one!

It's been mentioned that more power isn't an issue, it's just not really a benefit either. You'll often find that 550w units are priced within $5-$10 of the same 650w unit, at that point why not?

Doesn't change the fact that you're trying to up-sell people on PSUs and wrong about everything you said.

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