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Best Ram to use

I’m looking to upgrade my system to a I9 9900K with the Ausus Maximus XI Forumula. It’ll be under water so temps shouldn’t be an issue, just need help decideing what ram to use so I can OC the CPU past 5 GHZ
Mobo says the highest it supports is DDR4400, should I go with that or another speed?

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Hi,
Doubt I'd go above 3600 frankly
https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

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Hi,

Doubt I'd go above 3600 frankly

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/


How come? I would of assumed go with the highest the MB can support

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Hi,
Not too much bang for any higher just more complications with memory controller issues with higher frequencies

You're always welcome to max it out I personally wouldn't.

Plus stay with 8gb sticks if you can
Maxing all four slots is always hit and miss with sticks over 8gb's
I doubt many people need more than 4x8gb anyway that's 32gb's of memory

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Higher frequency ram doesn't help with CPU OC capabilities, if anything it hinders it to a degree.

I'd go with whatever you think looks the best at the capacity you want that's around the 3500-3800 mark with decent timings

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So something like G.Skill
F4-3600C15D-16GTZ would be more then enough.


Glad I asked before I overspent

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So something like G.Skill
F4-3600C15D-16GTZ would be more then enough.
Glad I asked before I overspent
This looks like a good recommendation.

2x8 for 16GB
speed 3600-4000MHz
CAS (latency) of 15 or 16 (this matters as much as the frequency)

Over 4000MHz gets harder to make stable in some cases.

16GB is way easier to make stable at XMP speed than 32GB (whether the 32GB is two sticks or four sticks).

Ideally get a memory set that is on your motherboard's QVL or where your motherboard is on your memory site's QVL. I find that typically the memory maker's QVL is kept more up-to-date than the motherboard's QVL, but either will probably do.

Most people here recommend sticks with Samsung B-die chips which you can see here https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/ and if you have issues with the speed, it will be easier to get help here with Samsung b-die chips.

I personally stay away from the RGB sticks because some people say they are harder to get stable, but that may or may not be true if you're not pushing them beyond their XMP rating.

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This looks like a good recommendation.



2x8 for 16GB

speed 3600-4000MHz

CAS (latency) of 15 or 16 (this matters as much as the frequency)



Over 4000MHz gets harder to make stable in some cases.



16GB is way easier to make stable at XMP speed than 32GB (whether the 32GB is two sticks or four sticks).



Most people here recommend sticks with Samsung B-die chips which you can see here https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/ and if you have issues with the speed, it will be easier to get help here with Samsung b-die chips.



I personally stay away from the RGB sticks because some people say they are harder to get stable, but that may or may not be true if you're not pushing them beyond their XMP rating.


Thanks

All I’m looking for is to OC the 9900k to 5ghz, maybe a little over that. If that ram is good enough for that, that’s good enough for me.

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Get something on your motherboard's QVL, the CPU will hit the speeds it can do regardless of ram speed but the higher core speeds can sometimes be problematic if you're trying to use a 4000mhz+ kit. The core will be stable but the ram may become harder to stabilize. If you stick tou your QVL this shouldn't be an issue.
Or just get a nice kit of B-Die if you like to tinker with it yourself.
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Thanks

All I’m looking for is to OC the 9900k to 5ghz, maybe a little over that. If that ram is good enough for that, that’s good enough for me.
Hi,
Yeah I don't get greedy with memory oc'ing it makes very little difference
I'm happy at rated speed

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GPU
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RAM
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Hard Drive
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Optical Drive
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Power Supply
evga 1200-P2
Cooling
2-280GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads with D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
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ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
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CPU
i7-5930k with Heatkiller IV Pro Plexi-Copper and koolance vrm water blocks
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Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
Hard Drive
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Power Supply
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2-240 GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads/ D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
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