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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 02-10-2019, 04:11 AM - Thread Starter
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need suggestions with 9900k upgrade

hey, im looking for upgrade for my pc, i been looking at some parts, i would really like some input and suggestion, also putting my reason behind the parts
i want air cooling, my target is to overclock the 9900k to 5.0-5.1 on all cores, dont know what thermal paste to buy,
it would be my first time really overclocking a cpu, except my poor 2600 non k, that i could increase ration to from 3.4, to 3.9

motherboard:
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS MASTER, seen some reviews, and gamers nexus really talked well about the vrm, i need some reasons to buy such an expensive motherboard, the AORUS ULTRA is the same price here where im bying, so my budget choice would be Aorus Elite

9900k, the price is too close to the 9700k, so i just want to go all in on cpu,
Noctua NH-D15, checked some reviews and seem like this is marginal better that dark rock pro 4 and nh-dh15s, and seems to be quiet all of them?

memory: 2x8gb
G.Skill: 4133 Mhz cl 19-19-19-39 "F4-4133C19D-16GTZSWC"
G.Skill TridentZ 4400MHz 19-19-19-39 "F4-4400C19D-16GTZKK" cost 22% or 60€ more, seen some test in games, and cpu performance increase the faster the ram, and dont want to manual oc ram myself, just want to turn on the xmp profile and be happy,

the rest of my current pc,
psu, Cooler Master PowerSupply V750S "RS750-AMAAG1-EU"
case, Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ATX PH-ES515E_GS,
gpu, MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4GB
cpu, cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212X would that cooler be enough to a 9900k?

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The NH-D15 and the NH-D15S is the same cooler only difference is the S version is off set to one side and only comes with a single fan
Also the last few parts do you already have those or do you want to buy? and last what will you be using the machine for? AMD Ryzen might be a better option for you

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
The NH-D15 and the NH-D15S is the same cooler only difference is the S version is off set to one side and only comes with a single fan
Also the last few parts do you already have those or do you want to buy? and last what will you be using the machine for? AMD Ryzen might be a better option for you
okay so would the nh-d15s be a better choice, it will get a bit more expensive if i need to add the second fan?
yes everything under the psu, is my current parts,
its motherboard, memory, cpu, cooler, and paste im looking after,
im mostly going to game with my pc, with with a possibility in streaming without loosing out on too much cpu power
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The NH-D15S is good cooler if you have a small motherboard or PCI-E slots and RAM very close to the CPU socket and the cooler needs to clear those
For most motherboards there is more than enough room for the D15 to clear, i have an X99 motherboard and with a D15 i would lose the top PCI-E slot so i bought the D15S to clear it

The second fan only makes the CPU 2c cooler so you can get the D15S if you want or you can get the D15

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If you want to run 5.0 to 5.1 on a 9900k go liquid. Dont waste your money on 4400 or 4000 mhz ram kits just get some 3200 or my preference 3600 mhz.
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Quote: Originally Posted by SONICDK View Post
i want air cooling, my target is to overclock the 9900k to 5.0-5.1 on all cores
You can read around here the various 9900k overclocking threads to form your own opinion, but it seems to me that most people find it hard to hit 5.0-5.1 on air cooling with that CPU unless you get really lucky in the lottery and get a CPU that will hit those speeds on low voltages.

I didn't want to mess with water cooling so I got the i7-9700k instead because it's a bit easier to air cool when overclocked and I can run it at either 5.0 or 5.1 though temps under stress test are a little higher at 5.1 than one would want for a regular load.

Quote: Originally Posted by SONICDK View Post
memory: 2x8gb
G.Skill: 4133 Mhz cl 19-19-19-39 "F4-4133C19D-16GTZSWC"
G.Skill TridentZ 4400MHz 19-19-19-39 "F4-4400C19D-16GTZKK"
Keep in mind that one can't expect that an XMP profile above 4000MHz will "just work" and not require messing with timings to get it totally stable. If you don't want to mess with memory and want XMP to just work for sure, I'd suggest (like others have done here) just getting 3600. For gaming, there is apparently not really that much of a difference in actual performance.

Quote: Originally Posted by SONICDK View Post
cpu, cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212X would that cooler be enough to a 9900k?
Probably not.

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I'd recommend the ASRock Taichi Ultimate mobo, over 4000mhz on ram will really need a good mobo and cpu. I did 4600 and it took alot of vccio and vccsa on a Dark, but if any mobo can do it for a reasonable price its the asrock, they have amazing memory capability.
Gigabyte is not great for memory. Especially if you have to manually do timings, which alot of people are needing to do with over 4000 memory kits on z390
All the affordable asus boards wont do over 4000mhz with mem
5.1 on all cores may be difficult to achieve on air, it was tough with a EK-360 Phoenix on a retail chip. you will need a good sample for sure


I read there are poorly optimized games that run much better over 4000mhz, people were referencing some article

theres a guy on hwbot selling some c19 4266 for low also, https://community.hwbot.org/topic/18...s-cheap-b-die/

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The vanilla non-Ultimate Taichi is the same as the Ultimate if you don't care about slightly slower WiFi/10Gb LAN. Mine is great.

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The vanilla non-Ultimate Taichi is the same as the Ultimate if you don't care about slightly slower WiFi. Mine is great.
then I'd definitely recommend that, I wasnt sure. ASRock is a solid company and they put out better boards, at a much lower cost than their competitors.

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Forgot it has 10Gb LAN too, but yeah, that's about it. VRM and all the important bits are identical.

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AMD X4 960T Zosma @ X6 4870mhz (+62.3%)
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