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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 04-02-2019, 10:49 PM - Thread Starter
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[HELP NEEDED] Motherboard not working as it should after switching GPU

MOBO: P8Z77-V LX
CPU: I5-2500K
GPU: 750 TI / 980 TI
RAM: KHX1600C9D3K3/12GX
POWER SUPPLY: some 500w cooler master

So i had an 750 ti installed and i was running my cpu at 4.7GHz with offset voltage of 0.155 or 0.165 in windows it was about 1.4 MAX. I had my ram running 1866MHz with 1.650v and timings of 9-11-9-27 and it was all stable. I benchmarked and stress tested a few good hours and have gamed on it for a few weeks. I bought an MSI 980 Ti and when i plugged in i was curious if my power supply was enough for it. I booted up and bluescreened almost instantly. I did go to BIOS and reverted all settings back to defaults and i was able to boot and stress test my pc. I did go back to bios and start overclocking again only to find that i bluescreened instantly. I tried a little lighter overclock something like offset +0.015 with 4.4GHz and i was able to boot. Then i tried to overclock my memory first with XMP and then with manual BUT every time i booted into windows it shows in task manager AND cpu-z that my ram was running at 1333MHz and i know it is double data rate. My timings were untouched in cpu-z. So no matter what i set in my bios as frequency, timings or voltage it doesn't change. When i go back to bios all settings are still in there... My CPU voltage won't go over 1.352. I tried setting my cpu voltage 1.500 manual mode in bios but in windows it is stuck at 1.352v so what the **** is wrong with this system...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Snipe=D View Post
MOBO: P8Z77-V LX
CPU: I5-2500K
GPU: 750 TI / 980 TI
RAM: KHX1600C9D3K3/12GX
POWER SUPPLY: some 500w cooler master

So i had an 750 ti installed and i was running my cpu at 4.7GHz with offset voltage of 0.155 or 0.165 in windows it was about 1.4 MAX. I had my ram running 1866MHz with 1.650v and timings of 9-11-9-27 and it was all stable. I benchmarked and stress tested a few good hours and have gamed on it for a few weeks. I bought an MSI 980 Ti and when i plugged in i was curious if my power supply was enough for it. I booted up and bluescreened almost instantly. I did go to BIOS and reverted all settings back to defaults and i was able to boot and stress test my pc. I did go back to bios and start overclocking again only to find that i bluescreened instantly. I tried a little lighter overclock something like offset +0.015 with 4.4GHz and i was able to boot. Then i tried to overclock my memory first with XMP and then with manual BUT every time i booted into windows it shows in task manager AND cpu-z that my ram was running at 1333MHz and i know it is double data rate. My timings were untouched in cpu-z. So no matter what i set in my bios as frequency, timings or voltage it doesn't change. When i go back to bios all settings are still in there... My CPU voltage won't go over 1.352. I tried setting my cpu voltage 1.500 manual mode in bios but in windows it is stuck at 1.352v so what the **** is wrong with this system...
I'm trying to ignore the fact that you bought a 980 Ti without getting a newer and much better PSU. I mean really, "some 500W Cooler Master" and you're trusting it to power your 980 Ti? How much did you pay for that video card? Y'know? I think you should've bought a new and better PSU as well. But anyway......

I think the video card isn't inserted into the PCI-E slot perfectly. I know how this sounds, but trust me, when the video card isn't absolutely 100% perfectly inserted, a computer system can act very strangely.


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CPU
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage)
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850)
GPU
MSI GTX 1070 Ti Gaming Titanium 8G
RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9
Hard Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS)
Hard Drive
3 TB Toshiba P300 (D: drive)
Optical Drive
Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner
Optical Drive
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Power Supply
Corsair RM550x
Cooling
Thermaltake Frio
Case
CM 690
Operating System
Windows 10 Home
Monitor
AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC)
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Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate
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Well the thing is that im going to get a new psu. I paid only 200€ for the 980 ti and where i live it is pretty good. At the moment i don't see any problem with my psu as it seems to be enough for my build. I tried overclocking my gpu and stress testing it to see if it was my psu and no my pc didn't crash even if i set my gpu power targer at MAX and overclocked it something like +150/+500. But thanks for the tip let me test if the gpu is inserted properly . As far as i know my psu is big enough to run my current system the problem lies somewhere else.
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Well the thing is that im going to get a new psu. I paid only 200€ for the 980 ti and where i live it is pretty good. At the moment i don't see any problem with my psu as it seems to be enough for my build. I tried overclocking my gpu and stress testing it to see if it was my psu and no my pc didn't crash even if i set my gpu power targer at MAX and overclocked it something like +150/+500. But thanks for the tip let me test if the gpu is inserted properly . As far as i know my psu is big enough to run my current system the problem lies somewhere else.
It's not just a matter of the advertised wattage rating. There is so much to PSUs that it's overwhelming. You can't just say, "Well, it's rated for 500W. That's all I need to know." No. You have to know much more than that. What's the +12V wattage capacity? How good is the ripple suppression? How good is the voltage regulation? What have professional reviewers said about it? I could go on and on.

The fact that you describe it as "some 500W Cooler Master" scares me.

Perhaps the scariest thing is: there's no way to know how good or bad your PSU is without using proper PSU testing equipment. You can't say, "Well, my computer seems to be running fine, therefore my PSU is good enough." I'm afraid that's no way to judge a PSU. The problem with a crappy PSU is, you don't find out it's crappy until it's too late. You always find out the hard way. If that thing is as bad as I think it is, and if it dies because of all this overclocking and the HUGE increase in power consumption you just created, it could easily kill your entire computer.

The same goes with extremely high-end PSUs though, except when THEY die, they usually die harmlessly (they don't kill anything). Even so, if you have a bad high-end PSU (like maybe it's defective), you can't find out. You can't tell. You don't find out until it dies or your system starts having strange instability problems that you just can't fix.


Loneliness is a good thing to share with someone.

The virtuous spirit has no need for thankful approval, owning a certain conviction that what has been done is right.
CPU
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage)
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850)
GPU
MSI GTX 1070 Ti Gaming Titanium 8G
RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9
Hard Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS)
Hard Drive
3 TB Toshiba P300 (D: drive)
Optical Drive
Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner
Optical Drive
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner
Power Supply
Corsair RM550x
Cooling
Thermaltake Frio
Case
CM 690
Operating System
Windows 10 Home
Monitor
AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC)
Keyboard
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO
Mouse
Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate
Mousepad
It's just a mousepad
Audio
X-Fi Titanium HD
Audio
Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable speaker wires)
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POWER SUPPLY: some 500w cooler master
What's the actual model of that psu?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Drake87 View Post
What's the actual model of that psu?
This.

I really want to know too.

Did it come with your case? If so, which case is it?


Loneliness is a good thing to share with someone.

The virtuous spirit has no need for thankful approval, owning a certain conviction that what has been done is right.
CPU
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage)
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850)
GPU
MSI GTX 1070 Ti Gaming Titanium 8G
RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9
Hard Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS)
Hard Drive
3 TB Toshiba P300 (D: drive)
Optical Drive
Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner
Optical Drive
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner
Power Supply
Corsair RM550x
Cooling
Thermaltake Frio
Case
CM 690
Operating System
Windows 10 Home
Monitor
AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC)
Keyboard
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO
Mouse
Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate
Mousepad
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Audio
X-Fi Titanium HD
Audio
Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable speaker wires)
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
This.

I really want to know too.

Did it come with your case? If so, which case is it?
The first PC I built I used the included power supply with a case. It died within two years. Now that I think about it, two years is pretty good for the quality of that thing.
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The first PC I built I used the included power supply with a case. It died within two years. Now that I think about it, two years is pretty good for the quality of that thing.
hehehehehe

You're lucky the death of the PSU didn't kill your entire system.


Loneliness is a good thing to share with someone.

The virtuous spirit has no need for thankful approval, owning a certain conviction that what has been done is right.
CPU
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage)
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850)
GPU
MSI GTX 1070 Ti Gaming Titanium 8G
RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9
Hard Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS)
Hard Drive
3 TB Toshiba P300 (D: drive)
Optical Drive
Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner
Optical Drive
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner
Power Supply
Corsair RM550x
Cooling
Thermaltake Frio
Case
CM 690
Operating System
Windows 10 Home
Monitor
AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC)
Keyboard
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO
Mouse
Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate
Mousepad
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X-Fi Titanium HD
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hehehehehe

You're lucky the death of the PSU didn't kill your entire system.
Oh it did. It took out the whole thing. Poor athlon 64.
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Oh it did. It took out the whole thing. Poor athlon 64.
Oh. I'm glad I asked.

You see Snipe=D, this is why it's absolutely critical to power a system like yours with a good PSU. It's almost equally important to never take a chance, which is what you're doing.

When I upgraded from the GTX 780 to the GTX 1070 Ti about 3 weeks ago, I did so by simultaneously replacing the PSU with the Corsair RM550x because this GTX 1070 Ti cost me $500, and the RM550x is a very high-end PSU, yet it was only $80. My previous PSU is turning 10 years old this year. It's the original Corsair HX650, and while I would love to assume it's still got many years left in it (after all, it's an enthusiast-class PSU), I am not willing to take that chance with my $500 investment. I'm also going to be investing even more money into more upgrades this year, which will probably run me a grand total of about $800 between the CPU, motherboard, and memory. So, that's a $1300 investment when it's all done. I'm not taking a chance with that!

Maybe it's The Placebo Effect, but I could swear to you my system feels more stable somehow ever since getting this newer and much better PSU. I also worry about my system much less. I used to worry that some day I'd wake up, turn my computer on, and get greeted by a dead PSU. Now I just enjoy my computer. I no longer worry!


Loneliness is a good thing to share with someone.

The virtuous spirit has no need for thankful approval, owning a certain conviction that what has been done is right.
CPU
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage)
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850)
GPU
MSI GTX 1070 Ti Gaming Titanium 8G
RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9
Hard Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS)
Hard Drive
3 TB Toshiba P300 (D: drive)
Optical Drive
Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner
Optical Drive
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner
Power Supply
Corsair RM550x
Cooling
Thermaltake Frio
Case
CM 690
Operating System
Windows 10 Home
Monitor
AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC)
Keyboard
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO
Mouse
Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate
Mousepad
It's just a mousepad
Audio
X-Fi Titanium HD
Audio
Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable speaker wires)
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