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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-24-2019, 07:47 PM - Thread Starter
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Skylake used prices are outrageous but..

Old timer here

If you invested in this platform you did well.

Ebay selling an i3 6100 for 100 all day , 150-200 for the 6500(not even the K) with no end in sight when the 3200G Zen 2 and 9100F Coffee Lake is 80 USD with Google Pay promo. Granted you need a new motherboard. I couldn't even believe that the Ryzen 3 1200 is like 50 bucks new now....

I would sell now if you are on this platform. I literally couldn't find any scenario to upgrade a g4400 system that would make sense over just buying new hardware. I literally spent 6 hours trying to justify not buying new hardware only to come at a dead end every time.

I guess the "drop in a cpu upgrade later" route seems to be counterproductive at the end of the day or at least for 2019 am I wrong?

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-24-2019, 08:21 PM
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You came to the same conclusion many of us have.

Though I have a laptop I am looking to buy a 6700K for. Which isn't quite so easy to just drop in an up to date motherboard into this chassis. So I am stuck paying the high price.


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I upgraded from Ivy Bridge to Skylake for my gaming rig and HTPC. I'm tempted to change one of those over to a 3000 Series AMD, but it's more of a casual plan. Good to see Skylake holding its value years later.

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Don't think it's worth it.

My [email protected] GHZ: 489 Marks Single Thread CPUZ benchmark

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As I am not interested in multi-thread perf since I don't stream/video ed or play BFIV there's literally zero reason for me to upgrade from my Haswell.

Here's my modus operandi when it comes to upgrade:

-Can my system play my games @60FPS? If it can then ok maintain system.

-If I get 50ish FPS and no 30 FPS lows then ok maintain system.

-I would only upgrade if my games would be literally unplayble or I'd get too many 20-30 FPS 1% lows (stuttering).

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Used chip prices in general don't make much sense, especially on ebay. 6950X still goes for $700ish for example, despite there being new chips that outperform it for less $

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The "drop in a CPU later" upgrade proposition has never been that great for Intel anyway. Motherboards have typically supported two generations of processors (new architecture and die shrink) but that changed with Skylake. We haven't seen a new architecture since Skylake released in 2015 and we haven't seen a die shrink since Broadwell. Intel decided 100- and 200-series motherboards weren't suitable for Coffee Lake so they created the 300-series chipset. There's ways to get Coffee Lake working on 100- and 200-series boards, but that was more work than I was willing to put in since I was still on X58. Wouldn't have made any sense for me to buy an incompatible board just to make it compatible when I can buy a compatible board out the gate. My Z390 board is king of DOA since it won't support any future processors, but that's okay. My i9-9900KF should be relevant for quite a while.

On the AMD side of things, dropping in a CPU later has been more fruitful than I expected. I didn't think Zen 2 would be enough of a leap over Zen 1 to make the upgrade worthwhile. I might be compelled to switch teams if Zen 3 sees similar gains. Hopefully Intel will at least be close to releasing something on 10nm by then. They can't live on 14nm forever.

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I was actually just needing a cheap skylake chip recently to test out a motherboard. Ended up getting a g3900 for $20 shipped from someone on Reddit. The prices on eBay are just wild.

It's always just made more sense to me to just save up an extra paycheck or two and get the better thing from the get go than to "drop in an upgrade later". Doesn't really matter what part it is. GPU's are probably the worst... "just buy a <low end thang> and get another to SLI later." Then you realize that nobody has <low end thang> in stock after the new hotness comes out and the used prices are wack. On top of that even if you get an OK deal, SLI support sucks.

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Don't think it's worth it.

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My [email protected] GHz gets 471 Marks Single Thread CPUZ benchmark. I'm sticking on Sandy Bridge/DDR3 as long as I can, I'll just add video cards as needed

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There's a company that buys Skylake chips and then returns them after >30 days. They know their way around the system, probably trying to trick noobs that don't know and try to stand their ground.
Basically the real return period they don't tell you is 39 days regardless of whether you allow returns, you HAVE to accept the return, or eBay will force a refund and then they'll get to keep the chip too.



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