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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-05-2019, 12:05 PM - Thread Starter
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Intel 10th Gen upgrade?

The upgrade bug has infected me, since its been a few years since I built a rig.
My 5930K hits about 60%-65% Utilization and my Ram is pretty much tapped out at 13GB when gaming. My PSU is from 2010 and I generally get 70-80 FPS in games at Ultra on 3440x1440. Major IPC improvements have been made. Current rig is in Sig.

Goal: Drive my Acer X34P so I can utilize that 120FPS refresh rate. Also will be doing Valve Index at some point. I run an Arch-Linux VM too.

Upgrade Thoughts:
Core i9-10920X
Gigabyte Aorus X299X Gaming Master or Asus Rampage Equivalent
Second GPU for 2080FE NVlink
2x 970 Pro M.2 512GB in Raid 0
BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro 1200 or keep my Corsair AX1200(from 2010 modified with SilentWings 3 fan) and buy new cables?
Soundblaster AE9 (This is a pretty nice Soundcard, better than a USB DAC)
Intel Optane 900P (Speed up my Mechanical Drives)
32GB(4x8GB) DDR4 4400MHZ


What do y'all think? Budget is a few grand to spend or save. As you can see I plan to utilize those PCIe Lanes. Those are just thoughts, I am open to suggestions. My goal is above.

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post #2 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-05-2019, 12:32 PM
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Hi,
Nobody knows but I'm sure it's an upgrade from haswell-e.
Now only questions are what is
Price
Performance
Compared to 79..x and 99..x ?
Price is already kicking prior releases butt from reports.

Haswell-e might game better it's cache can oc a lot higher than skylake-x or probably cascade-x too where core count means little past 4 cores and 5930k has 6.

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Single 2080Ti is a better upgrade than 2x2080. Or heck, go for the Titan RTX if you're balling that hard.

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Quote: Originally Posted by m4fox90 View Post
Single 2080Ti is a better upgrade than 2x2080. Or heck, go for the Titan RTX if you're balling that hard.
SLI is no longer broken with RTX cards, SLI being bad is an outdated concept that no longer holds water with NVLINK. Its actually beneficial now in games that scale. 2080FE NVLINK creams a single 2080TI.

I don't play games when they release. I usually wait 6-12 months anyway. So scaling will be fixed by then in most cases.

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Im glad I clicked this. Didnt even know 10th gen was coming out this month.. Almost bought a 7980XE
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Of course, when mGPU works, then two GPUs work wonders. But the list of titles that do support it is scarce nowadays + some specific graphic settings with DXR does not work with mGPU, so far.

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if you're expecting to run 4x8 over roughly 3600-3866 or so make sure you don't get a daisy chain topology board. I know next to nothing about X299 boards so if the board you picked isn't daisy chain then ignore that.

tho more importantly RAM speed with Intel isn't nearly as important as it is on AMD. if you want fast RAM just get a B-Die 3600 kit and OC it instead of buying a 4400 kit. it's cheaper and the ICs in 4400 RAM is the same B-Die in lower end kits, you're paying for them to validate and stick an XMP profile on it.

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

SSD prices are pretty much at the point that high end rigs really don't need metallic spinny boys anymore. I'd take the RAM savings money and the Optane money and put it into SSD money.

Hopefully I'll be hard-drive-free by the end of the year

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Nice upgrade. If you can do with the slightly smaller capacity, the Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 500GB is faster and less than half the price of the 970 Pro.

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It's not faster than Pro in any meaning, it also utilizes TLC dies instead of MLC. It's only cheaper - but it is 2nd to 970 Pro in performance.

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