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post #31 of 68 (permalink) Old 06-13-2013, 03:12 PM
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The data is legit, but the spacing of the chart is horrible. The spacing of it (leaving out the top and bottom 30%) makes it look like AMD has a tiny share and Nvidia has a very large one, when infact the difference is not so extreme.

And we all know that some people are even too lazy to read words and just look at the pretty pictures with line graphs.

Yes, you are right. Be we clearly see that its a graph made by Nvidia, they always do their graphs like this

A spacing like this would have been more acceptable.


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Back to the original point of the thread. I agree with Nvidia, whether they are speaking from a business standpoint or an industry standpoint, I agree. I'm not much of a console person personally but doesn't mean I don't think they have a place. But, when Crysis one came out it was an incredibly advanced game with features built into the engine that were WAY beyond it's time which obviously led to inefficiencies that never really got perfected. Instead, they took an different approach with the Crytek 2 engine. They went to a scalable system to support consoles and whether we argue the graphics in the game were equivalent or not, the OVERALL graphic potential of the system was less than the previous engine. The truth is what everyone has been saying in the thread, in order for games to be on all systems the engines have to be able to run on all of them which means coding for the lowest common denominator. With all the systems on an x86 system it's going to be fun to see what they pull from the GPU's considering what they did with the GPU's running in the XBox and the PS3. (and they weren't OVERLY powerful remembering they were like Nvidia 7600 equivalents or something and they pulled some great GFX out of it) Whether people argue or not, whether Nvidia meant this or not, new console hardware, AMD or Nvidia based will allow developers to finally push some boundaries. I'm not a game developer but I've dabbled with some code and it's pretty amazing what the DX10 SDK's can do and if I can figure out how to build a tessellation demo liquid flow demos than I can only imagine what GOOD developers with years of experience will be able to pull off. I look forward to a new generation of games, especially with some of those Epic 3 demos I've watched.
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The more a company kevtchs about something the more you know it bothers them. The AMD sweep of the consoles is a guaranteed chunk of revenue for them for at least the next 5 years, the profits per device, while very low today, will grow each year as the process technology gets older, and all these console games are being optimized to run on AMD hardware, which can only translate to better performance on AMD gpu's on the PC.

As much as Nvidia tries to spin this the console coup by AMD was a big win for them and their graphics division.

See, here's what I don't get. If you sell 10 billion units but make no profit doing it, that's not a win. My old boss used to use the same flawed logic. He would do work for a loss or no profit just to stay busy. There's no point.
I say AMD will make little to nothing from the consoles, and it won't turn out to be much of a win.

How will they make more money from them down the road? Consoles always drop in price as time goes on.

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AMD wouldn't do it if there wasn't something in it for them, either in the short term or long term.

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The chart itself doesn't look legit.

that's because the baseline is 30%, not 0%, and instead of 100%, the upper boundary is 70%. Its common marketing strategy to game the graphs to make the lead look bigger than it really is.

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that's because the baseline is 30%, not 0%, and instead of 100%, the upper boundary is 70%. Its common marketing strategy to game the graphs to make the lead look bigger than it really is.

From someone who's studying statistics, those kind of graphs just make me cringe.
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This Graph only shows the past.

I think you should refer to a graph that shows the future. doh.gif



This would be bad news for the AMD crowd indeed.

At the end of that red line with 2/3 market share lies a $700 HD9970. biggrin.gif
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This would be bad news for the AMD crowd indeed.

At the end of that red line with 2/3 market share lies a $700 HD9970. biggrin.gif

lol, or a HD Goliath at 1000$

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Chart looks like it was done by a 5 year old..

On a side note I thought AMD was the manufacturer of both the CPU's and GPU's of these next gen consoles? If this is true then i doubt AMD should be even thinking about losing profits to NV.
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Chart looks like it was done by a 5 year old..

On a side note I thought AMD was the manufacturer of both the CPU's and GPU's of these next gen consoles? If this is true then i doubt AMD should be even thinking about losing profits to NV.


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