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02-10-2019 03:08 PM
blucube So, from a short look at things... appears AMD's VII card isn't much better off than the RTX2080? A lot of signs are pointing to it supposedly getting tons better after a driver update... but if there is one thing I can say about my opinion of the RTX2080 is if developers start integrating DLSS into the games... seems like it'll be tough to beat today?
01-27-2019 11:03 AM
blucube
Quote: Originally Posted by ORL View Post
Once you secure a loop with leak testing there is virtually no risk of it developing a leak unless something externally causes it. Loops will run for years and years without leaks, although yearly/bi-yearly flush and block cleaning is recommended for optimal performance. To be honest, I trust my loops more than I could ever trust ANY AIO solution. I have never doubted their construction, AIOs on the other hand scare the crap out of me as I was unable to perform any quality control!
I have seen several posts about RMA for leaks in AIO. I'm not gunna sit here and hate on them as I understand the appeal of convenience and maybe custom loops just aren't for everyone. Are DIY better? If we consider performance/price - I'd say likely... but - not everyone is after the best! Though for what it's worth - If I did go liquid again it would all be DIY. I only did the CPU in the past - now that my tech knowledge etc. has matured I'd probably look into GPU as well but not sure if other components are REALLY worth it at the moment... not sure if they'd call it mosfets, north or south bridge or what the actual clarification would be but... I did see some pretty sweet looking boards Gigabyte is releasing that appears to have blocks all over the board out of the box - but I'd also not be too stoked about the price point for what it does - albeit kinda cool.
01-26-2019 05:32 AM
ORL
Quote: Originally Posted by blucube View Post
Lol, precisely! It's funny you mention stealth bomber as that is exactly the term I've used in the past when referring to some of this tech - including new routers etc! I did end up getting an Acer Predator - and as you said, its design is a bit of an eye sore to me lol.

I'd consider water cooling again, the project is fun and they can look pretty awesome. It's just the upkeep for me... I've been pretty surprised in my current build how well air has done for me for performance while not producing just sound at all ... I also leave this rig running about 24/7 to access remotely and although I'm sure a well constructed loop(s) you don't have to worry about but... Leaving a loop running for that long unattended may make me nervous... Although I guess even it were to have an issue attended the result would probably be the same anyway...
Once you secure a loop with leak testing there is virtually no risk of it developing a leak unless something externally causes it. Loops will run for years and years without leaks, although yearly/bi-yearly flush and block cleaning is recommended for optimal performance. To be honest, I trust my loops more than I could ever trust ANY AIO solution. I have never doubted their construction, AIOs on the other hand scare the crap out of me as I was unable to perform any quality control!
01-24-2019 03:48 AM
blucube
Quote: Originally Posted by ORL View Post
Yeah, RGB and all these goofy lines and angles on every part can suck it. Its absolutely ******** for them to try and make everything fruity and tacticool at the same time. I do water cool all of my systems, but not in any of those ******** cases.

Why the hell does every company think we want monitors that look like red stealth bombers or cases that are trying so hard to appear as though they are tactical in purpose. I cannot imagine its possibly as popular as browsing the stores would suggest. I am monitor shopping for 4k and Freesync @ 144Hz and I think Dell and Samsung are about the only ones out there with all the features I want, that doesn't look like a pile of left over plastic scraps they painted and glued together.

This is the biggest reason behind my choosing between Be Quiet! and Fractal Design this build. Practical and doesn't look like a transformer took a giant crap on my desk.
Lol, precisely! It's funny you mention stealth bomber as that is exactly the term I've used in the past when referring to some of this tech - including new routers etc! I did end up getting an Acer Predator - and as you said, its design is a bit of an eye sore to me lol.

I'd consider water cooling again, the project is fun and they can look pretty awesome. It's just the upkeep for me... I've been pretty surprised in my current build how well air has done for me for performance while not producing just sound at all ... I also leave this rig running about 24/7 to access remotely and although I'm sure a well constructed loop(s) you don't have to worry about but... Leaving a loop running for that long unattended may make me nervous... Although I guess even it were to have an issue attended the result would probably be the same anyway...
01-21-2019 08:46 AM
ORL
Quote: Originally Posted by blucube View Post
Thanks! I most definitely will although it's usually not terribly exciting once again... I generally don't go with things that distract me from the monitor (RGB etc lol). I made 1 CPU water cooling loop back in the day with a huge rad that was neat but... the upkeep just isn't in me either! Anymore I tend to be happy just with a case full of good quiet fans ;p
Yeah, RGB and all these goofy lines and angles on every part can suck it. Its absolutely ******** for them to try and make everything fruity and tacticool at the same time. I do water cool all of my systems, but not in any of those ******** cases.

Why the hell does every company think we want monitors that look like red stealth bombers or cases that are trying so hard to appear as though they are tactical in purpose. I cannot imagine its possibly as popular as browsing the stores would suggest. I am monitor shopping for 4k and Freesync @ 144Hz and I think Dell and Samsung are about the only ones out there with all the features I want, that doesn't look like a pile of left over plastic scraps they painted and glued together.

This is the biggest reason behind my choosing between Be Quiet! and Fractal Design this build. Practical and doesn't look like a transformer took a giant crap on my desk.
01-21-2019 08:13 AM
blucube
Quote: Originally Posted by ORL View Post
I used to do the same thing! Except I just used a case with hotswap bays it came with, not this product. But now I don't even bother with windows at all.

When you do your build dont forget to show it off in the build log section!
Thanks! I most definitely will although it's usually not terribly exciting once again... I generally don't go with things that distract me from the monitor (RGB etc lol). I made 1 CPU water cooling loop back in the day with a huge rad that was neat but... the upkeep just isn't in me either! Anymore I tend to be happy just with a case full of good quiet fans ;p
01-19-2019 07:09 PM
ORL
Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Too many images dang things are never done anyway and as far as another build I'm built out for quite some time hopefully I'm not chasing tech anymore
x99 about 3.5 years now and x299 1.5 years old

I got 8.5 years out of a crap acer aspire from 2009 for goodness sakes and it didn't die I just retired it for x299
Another thread you and I discussed fittings, I can agree. The Alphacool Rotary 90 Degree fittings may have been the worst I have ever seen on my first exposure. The rotary has play out of the box on ALL FOUR of them! I am going to have to buy an Eiszapfen hard tube fitting set just to make the 90 degree bends to dodge my two radiators obstructing each other so it matches my Eiszapfen soft tube fittings. The soft tube fittings are amazing looking and feeling, but wow those rotary connectors were trash mate! Hell, I might even put my Swiftech 90 degree back in if I can get all the electro plate off the brass that's begun to corrode. Wish I could just flip the rad but that causes a whole new set of issues .

And your right, to many people never complete their build logs. Its why I typically just post a finished product picture anymore, life gets to busy for even myself to do it.
01-19-2019 10:20 AM
ThrashZone
Quote: Originally Posted by ORL View Post
I used to do the same thing! Except I just used a case with hotswap bays it came with, not this product. But now I don't even bother with windows at all.

When you do your build dont forget to show it off in the build log section!
Hi,
Too many images dang things are never done anyway and as far as another build I'm built out for quite some time hopefully I'm not chasing tech anymore
x99 about 3.5 years now and x299 1.5 years old

I got 8.5 years out of a crap acer aspire from 2009 for goodness sakes and it didn't die I just retired it for x299
01-19-2019 09:38 AM
ORL
Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
I've gone to using one of these for dual booting win-10 got me going this way back in the beginning but serves well now and the plus is linux is a lot easier too to deal with

Life is a lot easier
Take one os and data ssd out and insert another
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I used to do the same thing! Except I just used a case with hotswap bays it came with, not this product. But now I don't even bother with windows at all.

When you do your build dont forget to show it off in the build log section!
01-19-2019 06:10 AM
ThrashZone
Quote: Originally Posted by blucube View Post
Thanks! May have to try it out in the near future... can't remember if I mentioned it or not but I did try dual booting years ago... got it to work... then decided not to... and in both instances if I recall correctly the MBR got pretty jacked up lol... probably just being a novice but... from then on out I decided sharing a HDD with 2 OS partitions was not for me any longer.
Hi,
I've gone to using one of these for dual booting win-10 got me going this way back in the beginning but serves well now and the plus is linux is a lot easier too to deal with

Life is a lot easier
Take one os and data ssd out and insert another
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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