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02-12-2019 12:36 PM
white owl
Quote: Originally Posted by ORL View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by white owl View Post
No one cares about your almost 3 year old thread about an 8350. We're talking about an i5 with only 4 threads running modern games.
Meybe figure out what hardware everyone is talking about next time. Iirc you're the one that brought up the 8350...which is still relevant because games finally did take a turn towards multithreading but still not great if you plan on using a faster GPU for higher frame rates.
Whatever bud, evidence is evidence. Don't be bitter if its provided.

OP as stated, please do your research. Yes, your going to see performance gains. No they are not going to be eye poppingly enormous unless its specifically games that rely on and are limited by your CPU. Do your research in the titles you specifically play. Good luck OP, i'm out again.
Evidence of what? We already knew about the 8350 still being pretty good for current games. I literally just had 4c/4t at 4.7ghz...it was horrible in modern games. 60fps is possible but not 60fps minimums and trying for 120-144fps is so much worse.
Look at any GN chart of CPU performance and see where a 4690k ends up, let alone a 2500 lol

I'm of the same mind that if it's doing what you want on games you play that makes it good en ough. But a newer CPU with more threads will be noticeable everywhere. I noticed my little Devil's Canyon upgrade in all aspects of my PC, especially games but also in Firefox. Upgrading to something much newer would be even better. If you had a 2600k it would be a little different but that's not the case.
02-12-2019 09:25 AM
deafboy If you're getting the performance you want for games and productivity I'd just hold off and see how the next set of CPUs looks.

Will you notice gains, absolutely, will they be massive, maybe...

We have 9th gen i7s at work and for day to day stuff I can't tell a real notable difference between them and my sig rig. For games, I'm sure the minimums would be better and likely have higher top end. The difference for me personally just isn't worth the marginal improvements (for me 140fps is marginal to 120fps) but I know other people have different standards.

I would definitely be saving though if I were you and keeping an eye on things and upgrading in the next bit, I just wouldn't say there is an immediate rush.
02-12-2019 08:59 AM
ORL
Quote: Originally Posted by Paps.pt View Post
Thanks everyone for all your opinions.
I am still having the itch to upgrade but I believe that it could be wise to wait for Ryzen 2 at this moment, instead of just upgrading now to the AMD 2700X or even the Intel 9700K. Is there a release date for the new AMD Ryzens?

Cheers
None of this is set in stone, and there could be unforseen delays, or AMD could drop it earlier if stock is sufficient and it fits the market model (as in the current model stock depletes enough and the new stock is sufficient). All we know as of this time, is this year. It looks mid year, so the safe bet is to assume June/July.
02-12-2019 08:51 AM
Paps.pt Thanks everyone for all your opinions.
I am still having the itch to upgrade but I believe that it could be wise to wait for Ryzen 2 at this moment, instead of just upgrading now to the AMD 2700X or even the Intel 9700K. Is there a release date for the new AMD Ryzens?

Cheers
02-12-2019 05:40 AM
ORL
Quote: Originally Posted by white owl View Post
No one cares about your almost 3 year old thread about an 8350. We're talking about an i5 with only 4 threads running modern games.
Meybe figure out what hardware everyone is talking about next time. Iirc you're the one that brought up the 8350...which is still relevant because games finally did take a turn towards multithreading but still not great if you plan on using a faster GPU for higher frame rates.
Whatever bud, evidence is evidence. Don't be bitter if its provided.

OP as stated, please do your research. Yes, your going to see performance gains. No they are not going to be eye poppingly enormous unless its specifically games that rely on and are limited by your CPU. Do your research in the titles you specifically play. Good luck OP, i'm out again.
02-11-2019 12:43 PM
white owl No one cares about your almost 3 year old thread about an 8350. We're talking about an i5 with only 4 threads running modern games.
Meybe figure out what hardware everyone is talking about next time. Iirc you're the one that brought up the 8350...which is still relevant because games finally did take a turn towards multithreading but still not great if you plan on using a faster GPU for higher frame rates.
02-11-2019 09:04 AM
ORL
Quote: Originally Posted by NBrock View Post
You will notice a huge difference. I noticed a difference in general smoothness on the desktop just going from an overclocked 5775c to a 9900k even at stock speeds before the OC. Depending on the games you play you should notice a pretty good pick up from the architectural improvements generation over generation as well as more threads... there have been more than a few reviews showing that 4 threads can hold you back in modern games. Not to mention the newer instruction sets that you will be able to take advantage of in day to day use. I'm not saying get a 9900k... but an 8700k or 2700x should be a blazing upgrade.

For the goober saying he is in the same boat with an FX CPU... lol I went from an 8350 @ 5.1 GHz to a 4770k @ 4.4 and it blew it out of the water in every single task I did. You both would see nice boost in everything with the above mentioned CPUs.
Well, I blew up my motherboard and a stick of memory last night as unfortunate collateral damage trying for 5.3ghz for fun. So I will be testing this whole discussion very very soon.

But while I am at it, there are a few examples of exactly what I had been talking about. If you scroll down in this thread although its on the older 980TI the results are... shocker... exactly what I have described to the OP. I love the people jumping in here justifying their comments about personal opinion with attacks, while lacking any evidence. https://forums.tomshardware.com/thre...-1070.2681438/

In full disclosure, and also pointing to my previous responses. In CPU bound games you will see substantial gains. Even to the tune of a theoretical 50% increase in FPS in games such as Fallout 4 which rely heavily on the CPU in the background. But as always, in games where your really not relying on the CPU and mainly on the GPU, the performance gains will be in line with the graphs provided.

To the others here, maybe do your research first instead of spouting your opinions without investigation. Yes, you may directly have experienced massive gains in one or two titles that in your head justified the comments. But if the OP only plays select GPU bound games, then no he isn't going to see any glaring light at the end of the upgrade tunnel.

So stop being goobers
02-10-2019 11:17 AM
NBrock
Quote: Originally Posted by Paps.pt View Post
What about the 2700 (non X) or the 9600k, would that be noticeable as well, in your opinion?

The 2700 non x is a great CPU, if you want to overclock it. If you don't want to be bothered overclocking I would say the 2700x would be the better choice. As for the 9600k, I can't say for sure. I believe I saw some reviews where it had some odd issues with frame time spikes depending on title.
If it were me, and it was a choice between a 2700 and 9600k, I'd be tempted to go with the 2700 or 2700x and OC especially if you are close to a microcenter. Their prices for the 2700 and 2700x are a good bit lower than the 8700k and 9700k. If money doesn't matter as much, I'd say 8700k and 9700k are a better bet for strictly gaming performance.

I also agree that at this point it may be worth waiting to see what the Ryzen 3xxx CPUs are like.
02-10-2019 10:59 AM
pr1me At this point you might as well wait for Ryzen 3000 benchmark to pop up.
I have a 4790K at 4.6ghz with 16gb 2400mhz and will most likely wait before upgrading.
02-10-2019 09:59 AM
Paps.pt
Quote: Originally Posted by NBrock View Post
You will notice a huge difference. I noticed a difference in general smoothness on the desktop just going from an overclocked 5775c to a 9900k even at stock speeds before the OC. Depending on the games you play you should notice a pretty good pick up from the architectural improvements generation over generation as well as more threads... there have been more than a few reviews showing that 4 threads can hold you back in modern games. Not to mention the newer instruction sets that you will be able to take advantage of in day to day use. I'm not saying get a 9900k... but an 8700k or 2700x should be a blazing upgrade.



For the goober saying he is in the same boat with an FX CPU... lol I went from an 8350 @ 5.1 GHz to a 4770k @ 4.4 and it blew it out of the water in every single task I did. You both would see nice boost in everything with the above mentioned CPUs.
What about the 2700 (non X) or the 9600k, would that be noticeable as well, in your opinion?
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