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10-13-2019 12:30 PM
tolga9009 Same here. 4207 has been rock solid for me in conjunction with Ryzen 2700 non-X. I only had issues with 5xxx (random reboots, fan issues), so I downgraded using a hardware flasher.
10-13-2019 07:00 AM
desoto I've used 4207 with my 2700x for a long period of time and didn't have any problem.
10-13-2019 05:38 AM
bakljas I have x470 Strix (same board like pro just with better VRM) and R5 1600. I need advice what is best BIOS for the first gen Ryzen? And that possibly have fixed fan problem (when using monitor software fan can go to 100% RPM). I read that I shouldn't go to BIOSes for 3rd Ryzen (5xxx verions), that they will make problems for the first gen. For example Asrock on ther mbo pages for newer BIOSes mentions that "ASRock do NOT recommend updating this BIOS if Pinnacle, Raven, Summit or Bristol Ridge CPU is being used on your system." but didn't see any warning from Asus. Thank you in advance.
10-12-2019 04:02 PM
eBombzor So no BGS option on this board? Used the search bar in the BIOS and nothing showed up.

Quote: Originally Posted by upgraditus View Post
Yes used DRAM calc on fast settings but with gdm enabled
You should try lowering the voltage. I entered in exactly everything from the calc this time, enabled GDM, and now I am running 3733 CL16 at 1.35v. Pretty insane. I got too 100% in HCI and 1000% in Kahru + an hour of BF so I'm thinking these kits could go even lower.
10-12-2019 04:59 AM
MishelLngelo
Quote: Originally Posted by mablo View Post
Hi folks.

Is there a way to enable pcie x4 on m2_2 slot with an wifi card in either lowest x16 slot or one of the x1s ? I have an intel 660p that now i see is only running at x2 and after the latest bios update 5220 has lost a lot of speed.
When i got the drive and installed it it ran at close to 1800MB/s rd/rw that it's rated. But i believe after the bios update i only get 1500rd 250wr. I believe the settings are the same as before.

Also after the latest update hwinfo (latest beta version) reads some sensors wrong (chipset, tsensor, and cpu opt).

Bottom line is: help, how can i get my speed back?
Sorry but second M.2 supports only x2 /SATA even if you install NVMe drive.
10-12-2019 04:04 AM
mablo Hi folks.

Is there a way to enable pcie x4 on m2_2 slot with an wifi card in either lowest x16 slot or one of the x1s ? I have an intel 660p that now i see is only running at x2 and after the latest bios update 5220 has lost a lot of speed.
When i got the drive and installed it it ran at close to 1800MB/s rd/rw that it's rated. But i believe after the bios update i only get 1500rd 250wr. I believe the settings are the same as before.

Also after the latest update hwinfo (latest beta version) reads some sensors wrong (chipset, tsensor, and cpu opt).

Bottom line is: help, how can i get my speed back?
10-09-2019 06:40 AM
desoto
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayleighzero View Post
nice.. could u tell us the timings on the Memory.. also was there any issue on the 5216.. cuz for me its unstable unlike the 5007
My RAM is working under XMP profile as 3200 Mhz. I didn't tune any timings. I just jumped from old 4xxx bios to 5220. BTW I returned my cpu to 4.1Ghz with 1.28V. This is best frequency for my cpu and ram. 4.1 works better than 4.3 on my system. Don't look at tests just run your favorite software and use it to feel the difference. I don't know how but the pair - 4.1 x 3200 work better than others for me.
10-09-2019 05:08 AM
rdr09
Quote: Originally Posted by eBombzor View Post
Yeah true, AMD Robert said that their chips behave way differently than Intel's in terms of voltages so this whole thing is probably safe. Actually I was talking about the AItweaker menu under the BIOS. There seems to be two ways to set timings in the BIOS but since ryzen master records my timings correctly I can probably just ignore the other menu.

I'm guessing it died due to high temps at high voltage at a sustained load. PBO can jack up the voltage at load and the spire is not enough to cool this 7nm chip at full load. Combine that with the fact that 3600s are the lowest binned 7nm (thus far) and you got yourself a dead cpu.

What temps do you guys get during moderate to intense load? When I'm playing a cpu-intensive game my temps go up to like max 67, around 70 with cinebench, and 85 with small FFT p95, all under my TSP 140 that has 360w of potential thermal dissipation.
That is about the temp my 3600 gets in gaming and tops at 75c using Prime paired with a Noctua U12S and 2 fans.

With regard to voltage, indeed it is too high for a R5 3600, which is not really having a hard time reaching the 4.2GHz boost. The BIOS covers all SKUs and none specific for the lower binned R5s. Undervolt is really needed.
10-09-2019 02:07 AM
upgraditus
Quote: Originally Posted by eBombzor View Post
Holy crap that's good. Did you use the Ryzen DRAM Calculator on Fast to get the rest of your timings?

EDIT: Got mine up to 3600 CL16 (DRAM Calculator SAFE timings) at 1.4v. 3733 with DRAM Calc safe timings doesn't boot for me but I'm ok with what I got.
Yes used DRAM calc on fast settings but with gdm enabled
10-09-2019 01:55 AM
eBombzor
Quote: Originally Posted by MishelLngelo View Post
Yeah, voltages can be unnecessarily high, specially at idle, I can OC with lower voltage than BIOS would supply at same frequency but on auto boost. That doesn't mean that such voltages are dangerous, 1.5v is quite safe but not really needed. That's mostly BIOS problem, idling at 1.47v and full speed at 1.37v just don't make sense.
Comparing to past Intel and AMD CPUs is not relevant as this is whole new ball game.
As for memory and anything related to settings and OC, I use BIOS only, AIsuite is utterly ridiculous and Ryzen Master doesn't have enough settings to be changed.
I prefer doing everything manually in BIOS, Ai Tweaker and TPU are very conservative settings and OC wise. Right now, with this AGESA 1003 ABBA, I just set PBO to manual, choose highest settings when not overclockng manually.
For memory, I just set DOCP to 3000 and memory to 3600 with BCLK 1800. That gives me comfortable 3600MHz and Cl16. I manage to OC RAM to 4000MHz but latency, specially Cas is ridiculously high (will not work under Cl 26 so my memory scores are lower than at 3600MHz set as described.
Asus includes memory settings so it can be manually adjusted if needed, not all RAM reacts same way to XMP or otherwise. Actually, BIOS is not exactly following XMP and in my case, DOCP actually sets better timings that XMP suggests.
Yeah true, AMD Robert said that their chips behave way differently than Intel's in terms of voltages so this whole thing is probably safe. Actually I was talking about the AItweaker menu under the BIOS. There seems to be two ways to set timings in the BIOS but since ryzen master records my timings correctly I can probably just ignore the other menu.
Quote: Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post
Yah, I finally saw a dead one here in OCN. Owner said he came back to see the cpu fan at full speed and a blackscreen. He had PBO enabled and prolly running some intensive program. Did not mention about temp only to say he was using the Spire. I set a neg offset of 0.03v on my 3600 and see a MAX vcore jump to1.43v using HWINFO in fraction of a second at idle.
I'm guessing it died due to high temps at high voltage at a sustained load. PBO can jack up the voltage at load and the spire is not enough to cool this 7nm chip at full load. Combine that with the fact that 3600s are the lowest binned 7nm (thus far) and you got yourself a dead cpu.

What temps do you guys get during moderate to intense load? When I'm playing a cpu-intensive game my temps go up to like max 67, around 70 with cinebench, and 85 with small FFT p95, all under my TSP 140 that has 360w of potential thermal dissipation.
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