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09-22-2019 02:00 PM
CCoR
Quote: Originally Posted by klusek View Post
I have the orginal 2801 bios flashed via EZ FLASH in bios, and it shows "2801 x64" in the bios.
yes this is correct. Original 2801 will show correct version info. The modded 2801 on the other hand shows 0002 as version number.
09-22-2019 01:44 PM
ryouiki
Quote: Originally Posted by liakou View Post
Im using the official 2801 bios and I have the CBS options appearing, including BGS & BGS alt. Maybe the type of CPU plays a role here?
Maybe so, I'm still on 2700X and CBS menu is almost empty... waiting to see what 3950X reviews look like before going to that or 3900X.
09-22-2019 12:56 PM
mtrai
Quote: Originally Posted by klusek View Post
I have the orginal 2801 bios flashed via EZ FLASH in bios, and it shows "2801 x64" in the bios.
Well that is just odd.
09-22-2019 12:13 PM
CJMitsuki
Quote: Originally Posted by Synoxia View Post
BCLK overclocking is a monster. I've noticed a very subtle microstutter in gaming when going over 102.2 BCLK on my system that's not present with lower BCLK and more voltage (i used to have -0.03750 offset), meaning single core loads are a not completely stable. These cpu are really pushed near the edge of stability, but still there's something to gain.
More voltage produces less clock speed but more stability, also single core eye candy are better (don't call them "peaks", please.) Now i don't have microstutters anymore, will try playing with voltage and LLC to finally find best compromise.
From a raw performance standpoint instead, more bclk is totally worth it and will also improve multithread clocks slightly.
At 102.6 BCLK i had CBR15 single core 208-210 with my memory setup, what are your results?
@CJMitsuki i am using same BCLK/FCLK settings as you now, enable 200mhz auto OC then go Ryzen master enable pbo AND THEN you enable auto OC + PBO values. With your exotic cooling solution and ABBA bios you could see peaks of 4.550-4575
Those higher clocks with that bios do look nice but in fact drop the all core performance. Im not a fan of the "new" boost behavior and still prefer the original. Right now im testing manual OC with a bclk increase. I have my 32gb ram up to 3844mhz cl14 so far and that will probably be all that the mobo will allow right now. It is definitely a limitation on the motherboard as I see no stability issues and If i use Turbo Vcore to increase the bclk the motherboard will reset the system as soon as I go above the 1922mhz FCLK mark. Stability is still 100% all the way until that point and never any memory errors or BSOD. It almost feels like they implemented the limit instead of it being any type of hardware limit. As stable as it is I feel like I could easily push 4266mhz @ cl16 1:1 or higher. Ive never seen a system go from 100% stable to unable to boot all within a 15mhz increase to the memory. It just doesnt make sense at all. Usually youd gradually start to see signs of instability as you pushed closer to that state but nope, its 100% then 0% which leads me to believe that it is not a silicon limit but possibly on the firmware or bios side. Maybe some kind of error in the AMD firmware since this limit seems to be across the board on all of the processors, not exactly sure but theres no way this is the behavior of the silicon.
09-22-2019 11:50 AM
klusek
Quote: Originally Posted by mtrai View Post
CCoR just pointed out something to me and I checked my own 2801 modded bios. I did not check this when I flashed the 2801 unedited but it showing 0002 x64 within the bios and AIDA and windows reports 2801.

Can someone that flashed the original only check to see what showing in the bios vs within windows.
I have the orginal 2801 bios flashed via EZ FLASH in bios, and it shows "2801 x64" in the bios.
09-22-2019 09:13 AM
nick name Hey did everyone get the free copies of the Batman games offered in the Epic Games Store?

https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-U...tman-free-week
09-22-2019 08:58 AM
hurricane28
Quote: Originally Posted by kazablanka View Post
Great board but I hate it's bios. I have been in love with my meg x570 ace ,everything works great from the first bios to the last one. Ch7 was a drama for me.
Yeah, bit too expensive for me man.
09-22-2019 08:51 AM
Gigabytes
Quote: Originally Posted by nick name View Post
Honestly I understand you guys are frustrated, but this isn't the place to vent all that. Nobody wants to hear it anymore. If you want to discuss the problems that exist in the BIOS then that's what goes here. If you want to complain and moan about the speed at which the BIOS team at ASUS is working then take it somewhere else. I mean if nobody is responding to you over at the ASUS ROG forums then they certainly aren't going to read your complaints here and that just leaves you bothering the users here.

So help folks here troubleshoot or identify problems that might exist -- don't sit here and rag on ASUS. Please.
I tend to agree. I come here for information and have to scroll through post after post of blah to get to any real information. Their issues are probably caused by AI suite or Ryzen master (even if removed) corrupting the bios or they have used a modded bios with all those fan controls exposed and made settings that have damaged the chip responsible for fan control. I set my fan control in the bios once when I installed the new CPU then tweaked it once a few weeks later, it's super quiet and efficient.
09-22-2019 08:36 AM
kazablanka
Quote: Originally Posted by hurricane28 View Post
I guess so man, Gigabyte is also not bad. A friend of mine who worked in a retail store also said that ROG boards has the highest RMA rate out of all their lineup.. The store i bought my CH6 said the same and they are also fed up with the problems. If they continue this way, no smart person is buying ROG anymore.
Great board but I hate it's bios. I have been in love with my meg x570 ace ,everything works great from the first bios to the last one. Ch7 was a drama for me.
09-22-2019 08:20 AM
seansplayin Memory training failure: Ch7 (bios 601) & 2700x
System has been stable for many many months running memory settings from Ryzen Dram Calc “fast timings” on 3600 memory speed page.
Moved hardware into a new custom case and now will not train memory.
On first boot in new case would only train at 2133 regardless of voltage, or timings. Unplugged psu for 5 minutes and Voila memory trained on my saved profile. Two days later I crashed while raising Radeon VII HBM speed to 1150mhz. Now I cannot get system memory to train.
When I moved hardware from old case to new case I did not remove CPU, water block, memory or nvme’s and I’m using the same PSU.
My next step I think I’m going to reflash the bios.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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