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07-11-2019 02:33 PM
XZ G
Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
MEG ace is a stronger board than the CH7 but the difference on ambient is probably very low or nonexistent due to the PWM used , doublers, and the powerstages used (both are using IR powerstages and IR PWM).
MSI ace has a chipset fan (with fan stop) and cooling the 3 x M.2

The promotion makes the Ace relatively competitive: https://www.msi.com/Promotion/I-Love-You-3000-AMD/

You have to consider what you want from X570. NvMe at PCIE 4.0 speeds is pretty much the major difference. The CH7 is a good board.
Thank you for the feedback. I wish MSI didnt to this promotion I already had my mind and grabbed CH7 as its price was also nice.
07-11-2019 02:07 PM
AlphaC MEG ace is a stronger board than the CH7 but the difference on ambient is probably very low or nonexistent due to the PWM used , doublers, and the powerstages used (both are using IR powerstages and IR PWM).
MSI ace has a chipset fan (with fan stop) and cooling the 3 x M.2



The promotion makes the Ace relatively competitive: https://www.msi.com/Promotion/I-Love-You-3000-AMD/



You have to consider what you want from X570. NvMe at PCIE 4.0 speeds is pretty much the major difference. The CH7 is a good board.
07-11-2019 01:45 PM
XZ G [quote= Also if the price differential for a good board over a low end X570 is about $30-40 at best, why would you chance it?
The B450 Pro Carbon is $130ish and can run 3900X at stock but would you put a 12 core on it? If the answer is no, then the answer should also be no for the X570 Gaming Plus / X570 Edge / X570 Pro4 / X570 Phantom Gaming 4.
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So is it safe to say I shall not consider any board less than MSI X570 Pro Carbon or Gigabyte Auros Elite for 12 cores?

I have an Asus CH7, brand new in box purchased very recently. I can keep it or return and get a X570. MSI have a nice promotion in which a AIO CPU cooler (Cooler Master ML240R) is given upon MSI Meg Ace purchase or ML240L for Pro Carbon and Gaming Edge.

Basically I can keep the Ace board and sell the AIO after it is delivered. This almost matches my CH7 purchase price. Maybe a little bit over it. If I get Pro Carbon and sell the AIO then it becomes even cheaper than CH7 cost.

I plan to use 3700X at fitrst but most likely switch to a 12 or 16 core Ryzen 4000 series next year. I dont think I need PCIE 4 as 4.0 NVMEs are quite expensive.

CH7 is good for sure but having latest chipset is also tempting.
07-10-2019 12:56 PM
miklkit No ideer. I've always had trouble flashing bios before and rarely attempted it. This system is easy to use and reliable.
07-10-2019 08:19 AM
smithkt
Quote: Originally Posted by miklkit View Post
Budget X570 motherboards is an oxymoron.


My current X370 boards biggest selling point is its dual bios chips with a switch. Due to my ignorance at tweaking memory those chips get used a lot as one is used to unbrick the other. No RMAs.



I paid $175 for it and currently the cheapest board with dual bios chips is $270. $95! Maybe I'll just buy a GPU instead.
Wouldn't one of the boards with a bios flashback function serve the same purpose as the dual bios?
07-10-2019 07:30 AM
miklkit Budget X570 motherboards is an oxymoron.


My current X370 boards biggest selling point is its dual bios chips with a switch. Due to my ignorance at tweaking memory those chips get used a lot as one is used to unbrick the other. No RMAs.



I paid $175 for it and currently the cheapest board with dual bios chips is $270. $95! Maybe I'll just buy a GPU instead.
07-10-2019 06:08 AM
steelbom I plan on buying the 3900X but turning off SMT (as 12 cores is more than enough) -- any idea how that will affect the amount of power used?
07-09-2019 06:46 AM
kamil234
Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
For 2 DIMMs Daisy chain is better generally.


Worth a read: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...g-guide/4.html
Thank you @AlphaC . I bought the 3900x, Aorus ELITE, and 2x8GB Gskill RIPJAWS F4-3200C14D-16GVK (should be b-die)

Huge upgrade from my (now aging) 3570k
07-08-2019 10:59 PM
DedEmbryonicCe1 I wonder if ASRock will ever release an Extreme 6, 7, etc for this generation. Or is that essentially what the Taichi is?

I've been waiting for what turned out to be the 3950X for years now because 1st and 2nd gen Ryzen didn't have enough 1-4 core performance to make me want to upgrade from my i7-6700K.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-3950x
07-07-2019 10:16 PM
JackCY Budget X570 is called X470.

The bulk of mobos remains to be reviewed and comparisons made. To see exactly the differences in RAM layouts and VRMs on 3950X. All testing so far of VRMs is pointless without 3950X.
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