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10-16-2019 03:31 PM
nilssohn Thanks. And yes, but water cooling is the last step, not the first one.

As we know, it all starts with silicon lottery luck. If the core clock is high and still heavily bouncing when power limit is up, that's an indicator for clock potential a stronger BIOS can reveal.

Since there was not much choice of stronger Non A BIOSes, I had to flash the Gigabyte BIOS which is designed for three fans. That didn't fit well with the two fan connectors on my MSI Card. So either flash back and throwaway the chip's potential or put the card under water. I chose the latter.

Core clock drops by 15 MHz about every 8°C. Water Cooling with my current setup (CPU is still air cooled) reduces the core temperature about 20°C. So the gain from air to water is 30 to 45 MHz, not any more.

A custom loop is worth the effort only with a really good chip from the start. These were the original Time Spy graphic scores in February/March for your orientation:

10132 with 175/200W MSI BIOS
10501 with 215/240W Gigabyte BIOS
10729 with GB BIOS and water block
10-15-2019 05:32 PM
rave6091 Holy **** well done dude. shows what water can do ay
10-15-2019 03:38 AM
nilssohn
Quote: Originally Posted by nilssohn View Post
There is an old Time Spy Extreme run from early March this year with 4971 graphic score. Guess I could do a little better if I tried again these days.
Done with graphic score 5019, which makes this card second best in TSX.
10-14-2019 10:51 PM
Neverlucky I'm still waiting on my rtx 2070 super gaming x trio,it got delayed, but i have seen a few reviews, that this card is hitting power limits all the time, so probably gonna flash with rog strix bios , and adjust custom fan curve.
10-14-2019 06:24 PM
rave6091 I've definitely thought about it. But want to wait for the new cards next year and get a ti then do a custom loop. But for the time being im happy with what ive got, 9900kf and rtx 2070 is more than enough...... for now.....
10-14-2019 02:24 PM
nilssohn There is an old Time Spy Extreme run from early March this year with 4971 graphic score. Guess I could do a little better if I tried again these days.

Yes, it's a custom water cooled Non A chip with 240W Gigabyte BIOS. Your score is pretty high though regarding your card's stock cooling. Ever thought of putting it under water?
10-14-2019 02:01 PM
rave6091 i havent really tried normal time spy to be honest. i run time spy extreme because it pushes the cpu and gpu further then normal time spy does. And will crash easier due to non stable overclocks.
Thats a nice score but see how it handles time spy extreme .
Is your card watercooled? Thats an extremely high core clock
10-14-2019 09:20 AM
Hequaqua Wow.....lol
10-14-2019 07:21 AM
nilssohn
Quote: Originally Posted by rave6091 View Post
So with my MSI 2070 Armor OC with EVGA bios flashed, I ended up getting the highest graphics score in Australia on time spy extreme for a RTX 2070. And ended up in 6th place in the world. With my cpu (9900KF) results included i am #1 in the world for Time Spy Extreme. I really must have gotten a golden chip in the card, considering it reaches 2100 Mhz Core and +1200 on Memory, All with stock cooling.

i9 9900KF + RTX 2070
https://www.3dmark.com/newsearch#adv...dResults=false
Nice! Can you beat 10818 graphic score in Time Spy Basic?
10-14-2019 06:48 AM
rayboy2006
Quote: Originally Posted by rayboy2006 View Post
Just ordered the same card. Did you manage to try any other bios yourself? Also did you find the TDP limit of 240w to impact or limit performance?

Thanks
Just reporting back that the flashing the msi gaming x trio with asus strix bios(https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...er-8192-190620) increases the tdp limit BUT only only one of the 3 display port output is functional, not sure about hdmi. Also the fan spins faster at given percentage. Everything else seems fine, including monitoring.

I've since switch back to orginal bios and undervolted as i prefer to sacrifice a little bit of performance for a more silent rig. I personally set mine to [email protected] I've also found the game Control (rtx/dlss on) to be much more sensitive to instability. Apex can run a good 50mhz without any signs of instability.
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