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04-05-2013 07:27 AM
Fieldsweeper
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You're just misunderstanding it. I don't do this with my 24/7 system... I have separate chips and boards for this stuff.

Basically, we're drag racing computers. You cool everything down, raise clocks and voltages, and run benchmarks to get the highest scores possible. Once you've done that, the session is over. Then you submit your scores to be ranked against others.

Oh ok, well could be fun but not worth it to me, whats the point if all your doing is trying to get the best score lol, but you can't use it, lol.
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Refrigerated cooling that can go 250° below? Please elaborate...

AFAIK SS Phase is -30°C to -50°C and Cascade is around -111°C....
Liquid Nitrogen is about -196°C, Liquid Helium is about -269°C ...

Oh, dang now that you asked me I forget where I saw it, I been looking for about 10 mins now, haha ill find something on it and I may be mistaking in -250 But i know there are self contained units that can cool small parts down to below LN2 levels

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/1222/Atomic-refrigerator-could-make-coldest-things-possible-even-colder

I love science

Same point as 6 second dragsters that can't be driven on the street I guess, because some people love doing it and some people love watching other people doing it.

I don't know of any refrigeration device for CPUs that matches or exceeds LN2, but would be interested to hear of such a device.

Oh I am sure it wasn't designed for CPU / home computing, but probably LAB based mostly I jest remember seeing a small box that was used for cryo storage, and the information on it. could be rigged for computing.

comparing with costs of LN2 set ups, its probably not out of reach for some extreme coolers lol
04-05-2013 06:58 AM
alancsalt
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Originally Posted by Fieldsweeper View Post

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Originally Posted by xxbassplayerxx View Post

You're just misunderstanding it. I don't do this with my 24/7 system... I have separate chips and boards for this stuff.

Basically, we're drag racing computers. You cool everything down, raise clocks and voltages, and run benchmarks to get the highest scores possible. Once you've done that, the session is over. Then you submit your scores to be ranked against others.

Oh ok, well could be fun but not worth it to me, whats the point if all your doing is trying to get the best score lol, but you can't use it, lol.
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Originally Posted by alancsalt View Post

Refrigerated cooling that can go 250° below? Please elaborate...

AFAIK SS Phase is -30°C to -50°C and Cascade is around -111°C....
Liquid Nitrogen is about -196°C, Liquid Helium is about -269°C ...

Oh, dang now that you asked me I forget where I saw it, I been looking for about 10 mins now, haha ill find something on it and I may be mistaking in -250 But i know there are self contained units that can cool small parts down to below LN2 levels

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/1222/Atomic-refrigerator-could-make-coldest-things-possible-even-colder

I love science

Same point as 6 second dragsters that can't be driven on the street I guess, because some people love doing it and some people love watching other people doing it.

I don't know of any refrigeration device for CPUs that matches or exceeds LN2, but would be interested to hear of such a device.
04-05-2013 06:47 AM
Fieldsweeper
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Originally Posted by xxbassplayerxx View Post

You're just misunderstanding it. I don't do this with my 24/7 system... I have separate chips and boards for this stuff.

Basically, we're drag racing computers. You cool everything down, raise clocks and voltages, and run benchmarks to get the highest scores possible. Once you've done that, the session is over. Then you submit your scores to be ranked against others.

Oh ok, well could be fun but not worth it to me, whats the point if all your doing is trying to get the best score lol, but you can't use it, lol.
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Originally Posted by alancsalt View Post

Refrigerated cooling that can go 250° below? Please elaborate...

AFAIK SS Phase is -30°C to -50°C and Cascade is around -111°C....
Liquid Nitrogen is about -196°C, Liquid Helium is about -269°C ...

Oh, dang now that you asked me I forget where I saw it, I been looking for about 10 mins now, haha ill find something on it and I may be mistaking in -250 But i know there are self contained units that can cool small parts down to below LN2 levels

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/1222/Atomic-refrigerator-could-make-coldest-things-possible-even-colder

I love science
04-05-2013 03:09 AM
NoGuru
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Originally Posted by JTHMfreak View Post

How long will a basic pot of dice last? An hour or 2? Just curious
Depends on how much you have. I would say, 10lbs should last about 4 to 6 hours, depending on the bench you are trying to accomplish.
04-04-2013 09:24 PM
JTHMfreak How long will a basic pot of dice last? An hour or 2? Just curious
04-04-2013 09:18 PM
alancsalt Refrigerated cooling that can go 250° below? Please elaborate...

AFAIK SS Phase is -30°C to -50°C and Cascade is around -111°C....
Liquid Nitrogen is about -196°C, Liquid Helium is about -269°C ...
04-04-2013 06:36 PM
xxbassplayerxx You're just misunderstanding it. I don't do this with my 24/7 system... I have separate chips and boards for this stuff.

Basically, we're drag racing computers. You cool everything down, raise clocks and voltages, and run benchmarks to get the highest scores possible. Once you've done that, the session is over. Then you submit your scores to be ranked against others.
04-04-2013 06:10 PM
Fieldsweeper To me this is the WORST way to cool a PC Its seems from what I know, that you loose almost all functionality. meaning NOT the ability to use the computer but the practicality, how long can you run like this, can you wake up turn on your computer and not fry it with the clocks you run at??

I like to be able to move my computer when ever needed (not that i do that a lot,) to disconnect or open or what ever, not having to constantly monitor things like LN2 levels, and having to CONSTANTLY refil it, how costly is LN2? how can you store enough without it evaporating / boiling away, unless you have a pressurized chamber to keep it a liquid it seems that you cant keep a whole lot laying around, and this isn't a way to always be able to use the computer, more of an experimentation method of cooling.

To me, if you cannot use the computer without ALWAYS monitoring something, its not efficient, and a waste. I say use refrigerated cooling, in fact there is cooling like that that can go near 250 below zero more than you will ever need, and being as Ln2 only hits 77°K; (−321 °F, −196 °C) I prefer the longevity of refrigerated cooling. aside from power requirements, it seems sustainability is what I look for in cooling.


enlighten me if I am way off on how LN2 Computer cooling works.


P.S. im not bashing it, it is cool, just saying that I prefer sustainability.
03-05-2013 11:56 AM
Carlitos714
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Originally Posted by Arsinic View Post

Sometimes you can get lucky and a pot will show up on ebay, or marketplaces on different forums. Can't give much feedback on what's better and worse I've only ever used kingpin's gemini
Thank for trying! I will keep my eyes open!
03-05-2013 07:49 AM
Arsinic
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Originally Posted by Carlitos714 View Post

I am planning on buy a pot withing the next month. I don't have the money to buy Marksman. What second pots do you guys recommend? Also what pots should I avoid?

Great guide bassplayer.

I just recently joined the hwbot team and I don't like the submission I have been entering on water! Time to step it up a little bit.


Sometimes you can get lucky and a pot will show up on ebay, or marketplaces on different forums. Can't give much feedback on what's better and worse I've only ever used kingpin's gemini
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