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03-05-2012 04:58 PM
venomblade
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Originally Posted by Soulphalanx View Post

Clock isn't everything. Each processor has sets of instructions. The less clocks per instruction, the more efficient it is per clock.
It is by executing these instructions that the processor is able to do work. In home desktops, generally, it's x86 or x86_64 instructions with the added SSE-SSE4, etc.
Intel's design is able to execute more instructions with the same clock cycles, so therefore, is faster than AMD at the same exact clock.

*offtopic* Lol thanks for reminding me how freaky Shion is.
03-05-2012 04:03 PM
TinDaDragon
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Originally Posted by Don Karnage View Post

Amd > Intel
That is all!

Are you updated?
12-07-2011 06:06 AM
Ironman517
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Originally Posted by Don Karnage View Post

Amd > Intel
That is all!

This made me lol
12-07-2011 02:25 AM
Don Karnage Amd > Intel

That is all!
12-07-2011 01:47 AM
oc_user sry forgot what i was gonna say
12-06-2011 02:24 PM
adridu59
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post

Because:
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12-06-2011 05:30 AM
metallicamaster3
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Originally Posted by Lifeshield View Post



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Originally Posted by Shadow11377 View Post

First off Clock Speed does not mean everything. Their clock speeds and number of cores are similar but Intel CPUs outperform AMD (As of now) by a lot. AMD has been faster than Intel at times. Remember that.

This is going to be put simply, for the purpose of explanation.

CPU1 vs CPU2

CPU1 has 2 cores
CPU2 has 6 cores

Each core on CPU1 does 15 calculations per cyce, and has a clock speed of 1MHz
Each core on CPU2 does 4 calculations per cycle, and has a clock speed of 1MHz

CPU1 does 30 calculations per cycle (15 x 2cores)
CPU2 does 24 calculations per cycle (4 x 6cores)

CPU1 does 30,000,000 calculations per second (30 x 1,000,000 Cycles per Second) which equates to 30 FPS while Rendering Movie
CPU2 does 24,000,000 calculations per second (24 x 1,000,000 Cycles per second) which equates to 24 FPS while Rendering Movie

As you can see clock speed does not mean everything, neither does the amount of cores.
Even though CPU1 is a dual-core it manages to outperform the 6-core CPU2 due to more IPCs at an equal clock speed.

IPC = Instructions per Cycle, Instructions are what the CPU handles, like calculations in a calculator.
In general AMD and Intel produce CPUs with somewhat equal amount of Cores and Clock Speed, though AMD is going a bit more towards more cores, less IPCs while Intel is producing slightly less cores but increasing the IPCs.

So if AMD produces more cores with less IPCs than Intel, then applications that require raw speed rather than multiple cores will perform worse. A game like Minecraft is a good example. An 8 core CPU is useless with Minecraft, because it isn't coded to use multiple cores. A game that is coded for multiple threads for multicore CPUs will benefit from AMDs use of many cores, but most games these days don't benefit from more than if even 4 - and that is why people say Intel is Faster, because they just are. AMD chips can encode videos pretty good though, because most video encoding programs take full advantage of all available cores.

If you're looking to game don't focus on the number of cores but rather the performance per core.

Take a look at the following
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3960X+%40+3.30GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2600K+%40+3.40GHz
The new $1050 i7 3960X has 6 cores, and scored a 15000 CPU Score.
The "old" $300 i7 2600K has 4 cores, and scored a 10000 CPU Score.

Doing simple math you will find that
15,000/6=2,500
and
10,000/4=2,500

And due to that it is safe to assume that you will get no better performance in a game like Minecraft with the 3960K than you would with the 2600K because Minecraft can not use the extra 2 cores that were added.

You might find an AMD CPU that has better performance/core than one of Intels somewhere in mid-range but I don't think you will, however do some research and you might.


I wish there were more people on this website like you. Someone who can actually give an informed answer without being a fail Intel troll. Good information that will actually answer the OPs question instead of dumb analogies and idiotic troll pictures that don't actually answer anything.

 

If more people took the time to actually make posts like this instead of trolling n AMD whenever they get the chance to then OCN would no doubt be a much better place. Intel trolls take note!

 

+1.

 


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12-06-2011 01:38 AM
Lifeshield

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Originally Posted by Shadow11377 View Post

First off Clock Speed does not mean everything. Their clock speeds and number of cores are similar but Intel CPUs outperform AMD (As of now) by a lot. AMD has been faster than Intel at times. Remember that.

This is going to be put simply, for the purpose of explanation.

CPU1 vs CPU2

CPU1 has 2 cores
CPU2 has 6 cores

Each core on CPU1 does 15 calculations per cyce, and has a clock speed of 1MHz
Each core on CPU2 does 4 calculations per cycle, and has a clock speed of 1MHz

CPU1 does 30 calculations per cycle (15 x 2cores)
CPU2 does 24 calculations per cycle (4 x 6cores)

CPU1 does 30,000,000 calculations per second (30 x 1,000,000 Cycles per Second) which equates to 30 FPS while Rendering Movie
CPU2 does 24,000,000 calculations per second (24 x 1,000,000 Cycles per second) which equates to 24 FPS while Rendering Movie

As you can see clock speed does not mean everything, neither does the amount of cores.
Even though CPU1 is a dual-core it manages to outperform the 6-core CPU2 due to more IPCs at an equal clock speed.

IPC = Instructions per Cycle, Instructions are what the CPU handles, like calculations in a calculator.
In general AMD and Intel produce CPUs with somewhat equal amount of Cores and Clock Speed, though AMD is going a bit more towards more cores, less IPCs while Intel is producing slightly less cores but increasing the IPCs.

So if AMD produces more cores with less IPCs than Intel, then applications that require raw speed rather than multiple cores will perform worse. A game like Minecraft is a good example. An 8 core CPU is useless with Minecraft, because it isn't coded to use multiple cores. A game that is coded for multiple threads for multicore CPUs will benefit from AMDs use of many cores, but most games these days don't benefit from more than if even 4 - and that is why people say Intel is Faster, because they just are. AMD chips can encode videos pretty good though, because most video encoding programs take full advantage of all available cores.

If you're looking to game don't focus on the number of cores but rather the performance per core.

Take a look at the following
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3960X+%40+3.30GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2600K+%40+3.40GHz
The new $1050 i7 3960X has 6 cores, and scored a 15000 CPU Score.
The "old" $300 i7 2600K has 4 cores, and scored a 10000 CPU Score.

Doing simple math you will find that
15,000/6=2,500
and
10,000/4=2,500

And due to that it is safe to assume that you will get no better performance in a game like Minecraft with the 3960K than you would with the 2600K because Minecraft can not use the extra 2 cores that were added.

You might find an AMD CPU that has better performance/core than one of Intels somewhere in mid-range but I don't think you will, however do some research and you might.


I wish there were more people on this website like you. Someone who can actually give an informed answer without being a fail Intel troll. Good information that will actually answer the OPs question instead of dumb analogies and idiotic troll pictures that don't actually answer anything.

 

If more people took the time to actually make posts like this instead of trolling n AMD whenever they get the chance to then OCN would no doubt be a much better place. Intel trolls take note!

 

+1.

 

12-06-2011 01:17 AM
Hogwasher Never understood brand loyalty rolleyes.gif


I just buy what works for me and in my budget. I think its silly to get all upset over what a corporation does, or that my cpu is better then yours. It is what it is. Right now intel is selling the fastest and the most bang for the buck, so what?
12-06-2011 01:07 AM
Shadow11377 First off Clock Speed does not mean everything. Their clock speeds and number of cores are similar but Intel CPUs outperform AMD (As of now) by a lot. AMD has been faster than Intel at times. Remember that.

This is going to be put simply, for the purpose of explanation.

CPU1 vs CPU2

CPU1 has 2 cores
CPU2 has 6 cores

Each core on CPU1 does 15 calculations per cyce, and has a clock speed of 1MHz
Each core on CPU2 does 4 calculations per cycle, and has a clock speed of 1MHz

CPU1 does 30 calculations per cycle (15 x 2cores)
CPU2 does 24 calculations per cycle (4 x 6cores)

CPU1 does 30,000,000 calculations per second (30 x 1,000,000 Cycles per Second) which equates to 30 FPS while Rendering Movie
CPU2 does 24,000,000 calculations per second (24 x 1,000,000 Cycles per second) which equates to 24 FPS while Rendering Movie

As you can see clock speed does not mean everything, neither does the amount of cores.
Even though CPU1 is a dual-core it manages to outperform the 6-core CPU2 due to more IPCs at an equal clock speed.

IPC = Instructions per Cycle, Instructions are what the CPU handles, like calculations in a calculator.
In general AMD and Intel produce CPUs with somewhat equal amount of Cores and Clock Speed, though AMD is going a bit more towards more cores, less IPCs while Intel is producing slightly less cores but increasing the IPCs.

So if AMD produces more cores with less IPCs than Intel, then applications that require raw speed rather than multiple cores will perform worse. A game like Minecraft is a good example. An 8 core CPU is useless with Minecraft, because it isn't coded to use multiple cores. A game that is coded for multiple threads for multicore CPUs will benefit from AMDs use of many cores, but most games these days don't benefit from more than if even 4 - and that is why people say Intel is Faster, because they just are. AMD chips can encode videos pretty good though, because most video encoding programs take full advantage of all available cores.

If you're looking to game don't focus on the number of cores but rather the performance per core.

Take a look at the following
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3960X+%40+3.30GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2600K+%40+3.40GHz
The new $1050 i7 3960X has 6 cores, and scored a 15000 CPU Score.
The "old" $300 i7 2600K has 4 cores, and scored a 10000 CPU Score.

Doing simple math you will find that
15,000/6=2,500
and
10,000/4=2,500

And due to that it is safe to assume that you will get no better performance in a game like Minecraft with the 3960K than you would with the 2600K because Minecraft can not use the extra 2 cores that were added.

You might find an AMD CPU that has better performance/core than one of Intels somewhere in mid-range but I don't think you will, however do some research and you might.
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