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09-18-2019 03:01 PM
rivage
Quote: Originally Posted by vf- View Post
Hmm... @RamenRider I see two cables of that. The one listed is Accell B142C-007B-2. £15.49 1 meter.

Then there is another that is also £15.49 1 meter. Accell B142C-010B.


Hmm... They're both listed as Accell B142C-003B-2. 1 June 2018 released and the other in 1 April 2013. US import only on Amazon UK.

Ah the different model codes is for different lengths. Import fees will be the issue.
Monitor cables is something i definitely haven't thought of for input lag, could you help me out figuring which one works best for me ?

Setup : benq XL2411T with amd RX 480 - i've never used hdmi and i'm using an old dvi-d cable

thank you in advance!
09-15-2019 08:07 AM
vf- Hmm... @RamenRider I see two cables of that. The one listed is Accell B142C-007B-2. £15.49 1 meter.

Then there is another that is also £15.49 1 meter. Accell B142C-010B.


Hmm... They're both listed as Accell B142C-003B-2. 1 June 2018 released and the other in 1 April 2013. US import only on Amazon UK.

Ah the different model codes is for different lengths. Import fees will be the issue.
09-14-2019 10:36 PM
RamenRider
I found it boys. After 4 years on this thread. Real Breakthrough v2.

Things that affect input lag:

Your monitor settings.

Your monitor cable.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment..._might_have_a/

Your OS settings/registry/ect. Process Lasso and Project Mercury might help especially for Ryzen CCX performance.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleRite/..._with_project/

Your application settings: disable fullscreen optimization or aero for win7.

https://www.reddit.com/r/killerinsti...ur_windows_10/

"Whenever someone is suggesting a change to \Games they always say: "In the same Registry hive as the above tweak, you can also change the priority of Games. To implement this tweak, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\Tasks\G ames and change the following registry values:

“GPU Priority” change its values to 8 for gaming.
“Priority” set to 6 for gaming."

Oh last but not least, MSI Utility. You can configure MSI line interupts manually but MSI utility just so much more convenient. https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/wi...rrupts.378044/

The utility was updated recently and now you can add priorities towards each device as well, however I just don't know which settings are the most beneficial yet.

Some random tweak that I needed:
Quote: Originally Posted by RamenRider View Post
Stupid stupid windows. I've had this damn problem for 2 long years. This solved 90% of my input lag. I assume it has something to do with their spying. I was even using Win 10 LTSC 2019 1809. Then again I felt the same lag on my dual boot win7. Dam microsoft, NSA, obamaware. Can confirm the input lag is on English Canada as well. So far the best I tried is English Philippines.
Disable CSM or set CSM to mostly legacy:
Quote: Originally Posted by RamenRider View Post
Last photo is the CSM Legacy settings I'll try out.

EDIT:HOLY COW THIS IS GOOD STUFF. I can shoot targets at long range now with much less mouse input loss. It feels much more snappier and responsive. I feel that I am getting much closer, I'm like 65% there. Not just games but entire system as a whole, desktop, menus ECT.
HDMI has less input lag than DP:

Quote: Originally Posted by RamenRider View Post
Yup this is what I observed too. DP gave me slightly more input lag than HDMI. If only we can gather all the notable optimizations in this thread into another thread(like they do with Qresearch). Perhaps we should have a discord.

So what you are saying is water cooling and less fans is the best way to go?
But the best input lag reductions you can do 100% is: TEST OUT DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF WINDOWS. All of my input lag problems came from using Windows 1809 LTSC for several years. It was great on my FX 6300 system. No matter how much I reinstalled it doesn't change the amount of input lag on my Ryzen. Using the new 1903 reduced my input lag significantly to be almost as good as my FX ( 90% close). It even eliminated that English language input lag problem I had and beyond. So to reiterate, EVEN IF YOU HAVE INPUT LAG AND REINSTALL YOU ARE STILL INSTALLING THAT SAME WINDOWS VERSION THAT MIGHT HAS THE SAME INPUT LAG. I suspect the reduction has to had come from the Ryzen scheduling optimization in 1903.
09-14-2019 08:52 AM
BUFUMAN
Quote: Originally Posted by vf- View Post
Big pads has spoiled me. Once you go 1200 - 1800cm everything else is tiny.
Hehe, you just need a mousepad - desk.

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09-14-2019 08:50 AM
vf-
Quote: Originally Posted by BUFUMAN View Post
Have the big one https://cutt.ly/QwGyQb7

For you

https://cutt.ly/gwGyWf0

Just check product site [emoji6]

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Big pads has spoiled me. Once you go 1200 - 1800cm everything else is tiny.
09-14-2019 04:49 AM
x7007
Quote: Originally Posted by fatehasfans View Post
Its corsair 1200x, everything is tidy inside.

I've also tried to disconnect all fans and try one by one. Tried disconnecting front panel wires. Even a replacement PSU. It's still their:'(
Which one of the RM or HX ? for some reason I replaced my 8-9 years old ThermalTake ToughPower 850Watt because of known ripples and issue with their standards, and almost 90% of my mouse weird issues have been cleared. I replaced it with Corsair HX850x and using the 12 multi-rail setting. now the make things weirder, I connected the same PSU to my old computer I3700k Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe which I also had lag since replacing the 970 or even then I think I had lag, it's very hard to remember. I have now 1080 GTX. but even though there is no lag at all with the computer. so I don't know if the PSU changed something but it sure feels like it. my next step is to replace the GPU when AMD new cards arrive, if that won't clear the issue then it would be only Reinstall of windows as my guess which would clear everything up then. because I transferred my windows since windows 7 from INTEL to AMD and upgraded to Windows 10 and as a bonus, I transferred it from HDD to SSD, think of all the things

Now I remember I did some firmware updates to the GPU, I am beginning to think a Firmware update to the GPU could cause that. because I remember I had no issue at all with 8800GTX. I even have this card still, also I have 4870x2. I think I'll be able to test this.

For the old comp with the old PSU, I just used a fresh install on HDD of windows 1903 and updated it with just default Microsoft drivers, nothing else installed, Microsoft Optical 1.1A mouse connected to Benq 224W something model with IPS. I also tried a Logitech G9 laser mouse. but the only big different expect all whistle and tech is the GPU. I am using the Intel cpu GPU.

So there are not many reasons. the worst-case scenario is everyone needs UPS for the good or worse. some people need Online though when they have a long list of issues with their home power or country.

Can you please try to Video the lag input with your mouse? focus on the monitor/TV when you move the mouse, make sure you start to move it slow and when you go back move it fast. do slow/back slow / fast/ slow back like try a mix of many ways. if there is a lag we will see it. it's especially visible when u move slowly because of it possible to see the mouse moving with some delay

And always remember, it's not just the mouse, it usually also the keyboard and even Controllers. so the main focus is to split the cause and fix the root cause. because it's not exactly "a mouse issue" it's just more visible to the holder and user because a mouse is the biggest use in comp.
09-14-2019 04:34 AM
fatehasfans
Quote: Originally Posted by x7007 View Post
what is your psu? and how far the power cable goes inside the psu slot?
Its corsair 1200x, everything is tidy inside.

I've also tried to disconnect all fans and try one by one. Tried disconnecting front panel wires. Even a replacement PSU. It's still there :'(
09-13-2019 06:00 PM
x7007
Quote: Originally Posted by fatehasfans View Post
I have the exact same problem. Floaty mouse, a little bit of input lag -- almost unnoticeable mainly because I run very powerful computer but its there. When I'm in any game when I pan camera slowly I can see the stutter. Same in windows when I drag mouse very slowly across I can see the micro-stutter, something feels bottlenecked, even in bios mouse is 'floaty'

Tried pretty much everything.

- Completely new hardware throughout
- Driver overhaul
- Delete mouse drivers and all mouse files + resinstall
- Windows 10 tweaks + Xbox removal + Cortana removal
- Installed old windows 7
- Tried installed raw mouse program
- Many bios tweaks (hpet etc)

Nothing has helped, really at a loss. Been this way now for best part of 2 years.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

what is your psu? and how far the power cable goes inside the psu slot?
09-13-2019 04:54 PM
fatehasfans I have the exact same problem. Floaty mouse, a little bit of input lag -- almost unnoticeable mainly because I run very powerful computer but its there. When I'm in any game when I pan camera slowly I can see the stutter. Same in windows when I drag mouse very slowly across I can see the micro-stutter, something feels bottlenecked, even in bios mouse is 'floaty'

Tried pretty much everything.

- Completely new hardware throughout
- Driver overhaul
- Delete mouse drivers and all mouse files + resinstall
- Windows 10 tweaks + Xbox removal + Cortana removal
- Installed old windows 7
- Tried installed raw mouse program
- Many bios tweaks (hpet etc)

Nothing has helped, really at a loss. Been this way now for best part of 2 years.

Any help would be greatly appreciated
09-13-2019 02:39 PM
BUFUMAN
Quote: Originally Posted by vf- View Post
That is one heck of a tiny pad.
Have the big one https://cutt.ly/QwGyQb7

For you

https://cutt.ly/gwGyWf0

Just check product site [emoji6]

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