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03-06-2020 01:48 PM
Laithan
Quote: Originally Posted by z390e View Post
Anyone who isnt getting black screens used the Nvidia displayport updater?

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers...fi-update-x64/

Looking through my notes my last change before issues was installing that.
I applied that update on both my GPUs also.
03-05-2020 02:36 PM
z390e Anyone who isnt getting black screens used the Nvidia displayport updater?

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers...fi-update-x64/

Looking through my notes my last change before issues was installing that.
02-29-2020 07:00 AM
Madmaxneo
Quote: Originally Posted by Laithan View Post
You actually replaced the VRM thermal pads? It is admitedly something nobody wants to do and can be a lot of work especially if water-cooled.. but IMO is the most likely culprit.

Dry/cracked pad (explains why it happened over time), Mis-aligned/poorly installed (explains why it could happen from day 1).

At the end of the day IF that is the problem, it is a cheap fix to give the board a whole new life...

Throttling is usually a result of VRMs overheating when they are all overheating but I would think a black screen could be a result of just one mosfet overheating and the board not being able to sense that since a small hotspot only.

Monitoring temps (not sure if T1/T2 are the VRMs or not w/HWINFO64) would not necessarily show this issue either, a hot spot could be very small and outside the range of the sensor.

Can you stick a fan pointing directly at the VRMs just for giggles?

<SHRUG>
Just trying to help
Oops, sorry I never replaced the VRM pads but I have monitored the temps and they usually do not get that hot. I have thought about extending my water coolong to those areas but the only current option I have for that would cause me to replace my Heatkiller IV block for my CPU and I am not that willing to do that right now. The Heatkiller IV block is simply awesome. I have either a 120mm or a 140mm fan on the inner fan mount for my phantom 820 case that blows directly acrosss the board which helps with keeping the vrms cool.

Note that I swore I had responded to your reply like two days ago but I do not see it now so I had to post this one.....
02-28-2020 09:17 PM
MrTOOSHORT http://www.bios-chip24.com/epages/63...Products/20311

z390e, you could try another bios chip. Put in a new cmos battery too. Motherboards act funny sometimes, new bios chip can solve it.
02-28-2020 01:46 PM
z390e Thanks Laithan. Are any users with black screens using Gigabyte cards?
02-27-2020 04:01 PM
Laithan
Quote: Originally Posted by Madmaxneo View Post
Sorry but I have honestly done all of that above. I have been getting these black screens now for about 2 years (maybe more) and they seem to be completely random and not affected by anything you mention above. All I have tested it with is nvidia (3 or 4 different ones at this point) cards so there is that but I seriously doubt that is the issue.
You actually replaced the VRM thermal pads? It is admitedly something nobody wants to do and can be a lot of work especially if water-cooled.. but IMO is the most likely culprit.

Dry/cracked pad (explains why it happened over time), Mis-aligned/poorly installed (explains why it could happen from day 1).

At the end of the day IF that is the problem, it is a cheap fix to give the board a whole new life...

Throttling is usually a result of VRMs overheating when they are all overheating but I would think a black screen could be a result of just one mosfet overheating and the board not being able to sense that since a small hotspot only.

Monitoring temps (not sure if T1/T2 are the VRMs or not w/HWINFO64) would not necessarily show this issue either, a hot spot could be very small and outside the range of the sensor.

Can you stick a fan pointing directly at the VRMs just for giggles?

<SHRUG>
Just trying to help
02-27-2020 03:51 PM
Laithan
Quote: Originally Posted by z390e View Post
So since we know its board specific but not universal, what are the setups for people who are not geting the black screens?
Listing only what is physcially connected to the RIVBE:
AX1500i PSU
E5-1680V2 CPU (1.4v, all cores 4.4Ghz, no speedstep) / Hyperthreading enabled
32GB G.Skill RipJaw-Z (4x8) MEM (F3, 19200)
(2) Gigabyte GTX 980Ti GPUs
LSI MegaRAID 9260-8i SATA
ASUS 10G NIC PCI-e

EK Blocks on the VRMs, Chipset and CPU

Onboard LAN disabled
Onboard WiFi/Bluetooth disabled
Onboard Supreme FX disabled
OC Panel not installed
Most fan headers not used (have an external fan controller)

All USB 2.0/3.0 controllers/ports enabled and used

Custom 0801 from this thread (WannaBeOCer)
Updated Intel MEI firmware

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
02-27-2020 02:56 PM
z390e So since we know its board specific but not universal, what are the setups for people who are not geting the black screens?
02-26-2020 08:33 PM
Madmaxneo
Quote: Originally Posted by MonnieRock View Post
Has anyone used a

ASROCK HYPER QUAD M.2 CARD

or

ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 PCIe 3.0 X4 Expansion Card V2

for the NVMe in the RIVBE?

What are you guys / gals using for the PCIe adapter card?

Does the RIVBE with modded BIOS communicate directly to the CPU or it goes through the PCH first?
I'm sure it will work fine. I have been using a PCIE NVME adapter in my system for over a year now and it runs great (minus the other issue I have...LOL).
02-26-2020 08:30 PM
Madmaxneo
Quote: Originally Posted by z390e View Post
I do agree that it seems not ALL boards have the issue. But I'd bet those who dont are the exceptions.



The two constants in this entire testing are my Rampage IV Black and the i7-4960x. Every. Single. Complaint. I have seen is about the Rampage IV and Nvidia driver crashing and not recovering.

I've got 4 other PC's running flawlessly except for a tanked GTX Titan X (Maxwell) card, I feel pretty confident that I've tried just about everything I can.

I gave up at this point its in the back room. Switched to the i7-4770 with an RTX 2070 for stability. No crashes/black screens in 128 hours. Which hasn't happened on my Rampage IV black since the black screens began. There has to be an edge case on this. Nvidia support told me ASUS/Nvidia is aware of this issue as well.
Same here as you say, only I go one further and it's been through 3 different CPUs. Also, have you caught the black screens when they happen and start the PC soon after? If so you may notice that the nvidia driver crashing is not in event viewer. I believe that event is caused from of loss of power to the PCIE lanes or some other kind of fault to the PCIE lanes which is why it doesn't show up at first.
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