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04-08-2016 04:16 PM
toolmaker03
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Originally Posted by OCAddict View Post

I thought you said you lived in Canada?
definitely not me, I been in AZ for 26 years now, moved from the mountains of Tennessee to get away for the cold.
now I making a system to make things cold, ohh the irony biggrin.gif
04-08-2016 03:58 PM
OCAddict
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Originally Posted by RnRollie View Post

tsk, tsk, tsk wrong attitude smile.gif

If your consumption is say 100 Gallon to the Mile, you're not going to win many races... because you're not going very far. smile.gif
And if it is endurance, where fuel stops are allowed, you'ld be spending too much time in the pits getting fueled up smile.gif
And even the quarter mile drag race is no longer on the table, since you would need at least 25 gallons just to finish the quarter mile... and 25 Gallons of fuel is HEAVY, which you would have to compensate with more HP, which then ups fuel consumption, needing more as 25 gallon. Also, you may have to cut your tyres differently to get all these HP to the tarmac, which might add weight... etc etc etc smile.gifbiggrin.gifwink.giftongue.gif

On the bleeding edge... it all becomes very much rocket-science, doesn't it ? smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif

That's So true!
04-08-2016 03:57 PM
OCAddict
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Originally Posted by toolmaker03 View Post

devil.gif that is every day for me, I live in AZ and I use evaporative coolers not A/C's, so my house stays cool about 28C when it's 48C out side, but there is a lot of moisture in the air all the time. biggrin.gif

I thought you said you lived in Canada?
04-08-2016 03:55 PM
OCAddict
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Originally Posted by Puck View Post

Power consumption issues are not just because of the cost - it is because dumping an extra 600w into a room 24/7 literally is a heater. This is another reason why controllers are so important on a rig that stays on for long periods of time - not just for condensation prevention, but to limit the amount of heat being released while idle.

After an hour or two of gaming, the room will be a couple *C warmer then the rest of the house, even with the central AC vents pointing towards the system. Not a big deal when its only 70* out, but on our 100% humidity 90+* days it becomes much more noticeable.

Totally agree!

Falls into the category of for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction and along with that increased heat comes the rise in ambient which affects any part of the system directly using ambient for cooling, as radiators cooling the hot side still rely on the cooling fans relying on the ambient room temperature.

One good thing for my setup is I do not have to run the heat in my office in the winter and in the Summer I already had an AC in my office and it has to be run to stay in there!

The consequences for running this type of cooling.
03-30-2016 09:10 AM
toolmaker03 devil.gif that is every day for me, I live in AZ and I use evaporative coolers not A/C's, so my house stays cool about 28C when it's 48C out side, but there is a lot of moisture in the air all the time. biggrin.gif
03-30-2016 08:54 AM
Puck Power consumption issues are not just because of the cost - it is because dumping an extra 600w into a room 24/7 literally is a heater. This is another reason why controllers are so important on a rig that stays on for long periods of time - not just for condensation prevention, but to limit the amount of heat being released while idle.

After an hour or two of gaming, the room will be a couple *C warmer then the rest of the house, even with the central AC vents pointing towards the system. Not a big deal when its only 70* out, but on our 100% humidity 90+* days it becomes much more noticeable.
03-29-2016 09:24 AM
RnRollie tsk, tsk, tsk wrong attitude smile.gif

If your consumption is say 100 Gallon to the Mile, you're not going to win many races... because you're not going very far. smile.gif
And if it is endurance, where fuel stops are allowed, you'ld be spending too much time in the pits getting fueled up smile.gif
And even the quarter mile drag race is no longer on the table, since you would need at least 25 gallons just to finish the quarter mile... and 25 Gallons of fuel is HEAVY, which you would have to compensate with more HP, which then ups fuel consumption, needing more as 25 gallon. Also, you may have to cut your tyres differently to get all these HP to the tarmac, which might add weight... etc etc etc smile.gifbiggrin.gifwink.giftongue.gif

On the bleeding edge... it all becomes very much rocket-science, doesn't it ? smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
03-27-2016 11:21 AM
toolmaker03 power consumption tongue.gif
I don't worry about the gas mileage, when I am building a race car. biggrin.gif
to me this type of cooling system is very similar to a race car, so I am not going to worry about the power consumption on my cooling solution. thumb.gif

I'll just act, like it dose not exist. rolleyes.gif
03-27-2016 08:38 AM
Puck
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Originally Posted by toolmaker03 View Post

ok, so with the water chillers for cooling the GPU's are they going to be the same design as the ones cooling the CPU TEC's hot side?

also with the direct die setup on CPU I would think that this could potentially get very cold, with cold water running through the water block on the hot side of the TEC, what kind of temps on the cold side of the TEC have you seen on this setup, with no heat load on the cold side of the system?
only if you have done this.
I ask because it is my under standing that even though the TEC can never reach its coldest temp with a heat load on the cold side of the TEC, that it is always trying to get there. so I call this coldest temp that the TEC can reach with no heat load, the systems potential temp.
I am currently just using the CPU block, not the chillers, but it still works fine for my setup (and uses like 1/3 the electricity!).

With just the block, my modded controller limits the cold plate temp to 0*c, which it can easily hold at idle with low duty cycle. It only uses around 20% to hold 15*c while browsing the Web, and uses around 60% to hold the plate at 15*c during gaming. That gives me a load temp in the low 50s at 5ghz after an hour + of gaming while only using 60-65% of my available cooling. At full tilt it cuts almost 10c off that, but heats up the room and uses a lot more power.
03-22-2016 03:33 PM
toolmaker03 ok, so with the water chillers for cooling the GPU's are they going to be the same design as the ones cooling the CPU TEC's hot side?

also with the direct die setup on CPU I would think that this could potentially get very cold, with cold water running through the water block on the hot side of the TEC, what kind of temps on the cold side of the TEC have you seen on this setup, with no heat load on the cold side of the system?
only if you have done this.
I ask because it is my under standing that even though the TEC can never reach its coldest temp with a heat load on the cold side of the TEC, that it is always trying to get there. so I call this coldest temp that the TEC can reach with no heat load, the systems potential temp.
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