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12-10-2019 06:28 AM
doyll Even without fan speeds that review's data is totally out of line. TRUE Spirit 140 Power perform similar to NH-D15. Well actually it performs slightly better than NH-D14 when we tested it with TY-143 fan/s at 1200rpm and 2500rpm, and ehume's comparison testing of NH-D14 against NH-D15 with same fans found D14 to similar to slightly better than D15. No idea what the problem is but there is something seriously wrong .. and any decent reviewer would have at the very least acknowledged something was wrong with results, be it a defective cooler, bad TIM seat, etc.
There are several reviews posted in this thread. If you skip through you will find them and links to view them.
12-08-2019 06:45 PM
tike Myson
Quote: Originally Posted by D-EJ915 View Post
What cooler are you using now? TS 140 Power and Scythe Fuma 2 are probably best price/performance coolers right now at 50 and 60 dollars. I have both and Noctua D15 Chromax and they are all really good.

That review doesn't show fan speeds only db rating so no idea what speeds they are actually running fans at so it is hard to compare.

I am currently running on CoolerMaster 120 AIO water setup , when idle, it's quiet, but its pretty annoying during load. (load temps around 70c)





Yeah, I found his reviews a bit fishy and I even found his earlier "rants" on previous posts here so I will take the results with grain of salt.


But its really hard to find any overall reviews of True Spirit , just some russian reviews but not comparing with others.




Thanks guys, I'll read more previous posts as my answers were probably answered somewhere before.
12-08-2019 05:48 PM
D-EJ915
Quote: Originally Posted by tike Myson View Post
I was really interested in this cooler since its 14" and seems quiet, but it seems to be really bad in high OC situations according to this youtube review, any comments?

Or should I get eSports 34? I am running an 3570k @ 4.3g with 1.2v and am sick of noisy single slot water cooling. I want some silent pc until my next upgrade.


thanks
What cooler are you using now? TS 140 Power and Scythe Fuma 2 are probably best price/performance coolers right now at 50 and 60 dollars. I have both and Noctua D15 Chromax and they are all really good.

That review doesn't show fan speeds only db rating so no idea what speeds they are actually running fans at so it is hard to compare.
12-08-2019 04:35 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by tike Myson View Post
I was really interested in this cooler since its 14" and seems quiet, but it seems to be really bad in high OC situations according to this youtube review, any comments?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GSoaRsuke4

Or should I get eSports 34? I am running an 3570k @ 4.3g with 1.2v and am sick of noisy single slot water cooling. I want some silent pc until my next upgrade.

thanks
I tried to find his test procedure but it appears he doesn't give it. Therefore assume video testing procedure is flawed. It does show testing is done in a case but I see nothing about how air temp is monitored during testing. Lots of time talking about a lots of things but nothing at all about how case airflow is setup or how testing is performed. Case appears to be a stock Define case and they have case fans that can't overcome the resistance of front grill and filter so case airflow is extremely low. Testing without air temp into cooler being logged at same time as CPU temp is taken have no base for accuracy because air temp changes as fan speeds change .. and every degree change in air temp is reflected with almost exactly the same change in CPU temp at same cooler fan speeds. Also not mentioned is TRUE Spirit 140 Power is rated for 360w TDP, almost twice what he claims test is. I've ran TRUE Spirit 140 Power on I7 920 @ 3.8GHz for years and we tested at 4.3GHz against NH-D14 which cools same as NH-D15 and it was consistanly cooler as you can see in below graph in post #22 this thread:

https://www.overclock.net/forum/22111036-post22.html


What you get is up to you. But whatever you get I suggest you take the time to read "How Airflow Works and How to Optimize Case Airflow" in link below:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/22319249-post5.html
Because if case airflow is not setup so cooler is using cool air (not air 10-20c warmer than room) your CPU temps will be 10-20c hotter than they should. Doesn't matter how good or how bad the cooler is if case airflow isn't setup properly.
12-08-2019 12:28 AM
tike Myson I was really interested in this cooler since its 14" and seems quiet, but it seems to be really bad in high OC situations according to this youtube review, any comments?





Or should I get eSports 34? I am running an 3570k @ 4.3g with 1.2v and am sick of noisy single slot water cooling. I want some silent pc until my next upgrade.


thanks
12-07-2019 03:39 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by Echoa View Post
I'm not completely sure, The room temp is between 65-70f but I don't have any measurements for anything else.
Below is link to how airflow works and how to optimize case airflow. Last bit is what I use to monitor case airflow into coolers.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/22319249-post5.html
12-06-2019 01:57 PM
Echoa
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
What is air temp into case vs into cooler with both CPU and GPU at full load?
I'm not completely sure, The room temp is between 65-70f but I don't have any measurements for anything else.
12-06-2019 04:38 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by Echoa View Post
Done all these things, looking at probably adding some air ducts too
What is air temp into case vs into cooler with both CPU and GPU at full load?
12-05-2019 07:47 PM
Echoa
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Yeah, the fan clips are somewhat challenging. For future reference, I suggest mounting fan on cooler a couple of times before installing cooler. I clip one side and hold fan toward other side of cooler while clipping other side. Newer model Thermalright coolers have much improved fan clips.



Sounds like times are good. Assuming this is R5 case, have you replaced the stock garbage fans with better ones? The stock fans have such low pressure rating that they move almost no air even at full speed through grill and filter restriction. Also I've found removing all PCIe back slot covers increases rear vent area around GPU and improves front to back airflow lowering both GPU and CPU temps. I didn't realize H5 was heavier cooler, but I'm not surprised.
Done all these things, looking at probably adding some air ducts too
12-05-2019 04:14 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by Echoa View Post
Finally got my TS140 Power and I really like the mounting system. Feels very secure and is easy to mount. The fan on the other hand was a nightmare. Took me 30 min to get the stock fan for it mounted.

I did check the Noctua fan and I have enough room to drill some mounting holes in the frame for using the TS Clips for mounting so when I'm off work next I'll get the Noctua mounted in.
Yeah, the fan clips are somewhat challenging. For future reference, I suggest mounting fan on cooler a couple of times before installing cooler. I clip one side and hold fan toward other side of cooler while clipping other side. Newer model Thermalright coolers have much improved fan clips.


Quote: Originally Posted by Echoa View Post
So far even with Just the stock fan I'm very impressed with the TS140. Its able to handle a full tilt prime load on my 3600 @ 1.3v.

My old Cryorig H5 would keep me at 70c under normal loads but hammering it with prime Small FFT would reach as high as 93c under torture test with my Noctua at 2000+ RPM. The TS140 is able to bring that temp under control with 85c at only 1300rpm. The everyday temps aren't very different but the TS140 runs the same temps at lower fan RPM, 40g lower weight, and a much more solid mount system.
Sounds like times are good. Assuming this is R5 case, have you replaced the stock garbage fans with better ones? The stock fans have such low pressure rating that they move almost no air even at full speed through grill and filter restriction. Also I've found removing all PCIe back slot covers increases rear vent area around GPU and improves front to back airflow lowering both GPU and CPU temps. I didn't realize H5 was heavier cooler, but I'm not surprised.
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