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10-11-2019 04:52 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by D-EJ915 View Post
I just screwed them in all the way to the base until they stop, they just don't seem like a quality part and so I was getting nervous about it. I'd rather not have to purchase new mounting hardware if I don't have to do so. What socket are you guys using? 1150 series and 1366 series were much much easier to mount using less torque to screw them all the way in than on 2011-2066 sockets which requires a lot more effort. Maybe I am just crazy and misremembering lol

Actually I looked this up, they increased IHS height quite a bit.

LGA115x IHS height from board: 7.710mm +- 0.335mm
LGA1366 IHS height from board: 7.729mm +- 0.282mm
LGA2011 IHS height from board: 8.014mm +- 0.340mm
LGA2011-3 IHS height from board: 8.410mm +- 0.279mm

LGA2011-3 and LGA2066 use same mounting mechanism.

So it makes sense it is hardest to mount on to 2011-3 and 2066 which is what I have been using it on, then mounting on 1366 most recently it was much easier lol.

References:
Page 24
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...cket-guide.pdf
Page 27
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...cket-guide.pdf
Page 37
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...2011-guide.pdf
Page 39
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...11-3-tmsdg.pdf

It is called stackup height.
"I just screwed them in all the way to the base until they stop" is what I do too.

2011 mounts are different than 115x & 1366 mounts so the the difference of all 3 does not 'stack up' as you call it. The difference in height between 115x & 1366 is only 0.019mm .. aluminum foil we use in our kitchens is 0.016mm thick.

"Stack-up" is the +/- tolerance of each mount, not the combined total of different mounts. There is stack-up in the mounts, in motherboard thickness, in CPU socket, and IHS thickness effecting IHS height, so the total stack-up of each cooler mount combined with motherboard and CPU if all were at their maximum would be a lot, but in normal use that isn't an issue.

The +/- of each CPU height is less than the thickness of a credit card which is about 0.030inch.

There is also the flex in the mount itself to consider, and that is probably as much as stack-up
10-10-2019 07:13 PM
D-EJ915 I just screwed them in all the way to the base until they stop, they just don't seem like a quality part and so I was getting nervous about it. I'd rather not have to purchase new mounting hardware if I don't have to do so. What socket are you guys using? 1150 series and 1366 series were much much easier to mount using less torque to screw them all the way in than on 2011-2066 sockets which requires a lot more effort. Maybe I am just crazy and misremembering lol

Actually I looked this up, they increased IHS height quite a bit.

LGA115x IHS height from board: 7.710mm +- 0.335mm
LGA1366 IHS height from board: 7.729mm +- 0.282mm
LGA2011 IHS height from board: 8.014mm +- 0.340mm
LGA2011-3 IHS height from board: 8.410mm +- 0.279mm

LGA2011-3 and LGA2066 use same mounting mechanism.

So it makes sense it is hardest to mount on to 2011-3 and 2066 which is what I have been using it on, then mounting on 1366 most recently it was much easier lol.


References:
Page 24
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...cket-guide.pdf
Page 27
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...cket-guide.pdf
Page 37
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...2011-guide.pdf
Page 39
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...11-3-tmsdg.pdf

It is called stackup height.
10-10-2019 03:47 AM
doyll 3rd that.

Cooler mounts are designed for screws / nuts to be tightened so there is no free-play between components. I have mounted hundreds of coolers over the years and have encountered a few that the screws / huts didn't thread properly the first install because they had a poor job of tapping, but even those works fine after first installation. I've found the same kind of thread problems with case screws, motherboard mounting screws, etc. and again all worked fine after first in/out.

Maybe you were over-tightening to the point you started stripping the thread thinking these small screws need more torque then they actually do. 'Tight' is only screwing them in untill the effort needed to turn them increases. If you increase the torque at that point it an and does strip threads or breake screws.
10-10-2019 03:19 AM
Gilles3000 2nd that, I'm onto my second thermalright cooler now and neither had high resistance on the screws. They tense up a little bit right nearing the end, but nothing even close to what could strip the screwheads.
10-09-2019 09:05 PM
Owterspace Something isn’t right. You shouldn’t be stripping screws while mounting, or encountering any kind of resistance. It’s should thread in nicely. No muscles needed. Are you sure you are using the right pieces for your socket? I’ve had my Thermalright coolers on and off probably 20 times since I got them nearly two years ago. Everything is still mint.
10-09-2019 05:31 PM
D-EJ915
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Seems both you and D-EJ915 believe you know more about how cooler mount should be installed and it's screws / nuts tightened than the company designing and making them.
I'm just posting what I experienced no need to get upset about it lol. Anyway, the only reason I even know this is their included screws started to strip after a few mounts from how hard it is to screw them in all the way so in order to not make them completely unusable I tried not doing it and there was no difference as far as cooling performance is concerned for my socket 2011-2066 chips. Like I said I would advise to do it but it is not the end of the world.
10-09-2019 04:58 PM
eBombzor Thanks for the input, I decided to tightened up the screws because I was afraid the cooler would slide down over time.
10-09-2019 02:58 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by Smanci View Post
Regardless of the mounting mechanism, coolers should be installed using the least amount of pressure possible to achieve proper contact and by avoiding overtightening. Borderline dangerous advice even if not installing on bare die.
Seems both you and D-EJ915 believe you know more about how cooler mount should be installed and it's screws / nuts tightened than the company designing and making them.
10-08-2019 07:46 PM
Owterspace I haven't busted a core since s462 with a Tbred 2600. I crunched that core a few times before it stopped posting.
10-08-2019 04:47 PM
D-EJ915 These days with IHS we usually don't get broken dies from heatsink mounting pressure, that used to be extremely common when they switched from socket to flip chip.
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