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02-21-2020 03:06 PM
NewUser16
Quote: Originally Posted by jsutter71 View Post
You know I totally respect your opinion but, you know theirs always gonna be a but I recently had the same conversation with a friend who was new to hard tubing and was dead set on acrylic. Like you I have also used both and after weighing the pros and cons made petg my choice in tubing. It’s like ford vs chevy. People tend to have strong opinions towards their choice. Even so, while I Personally don’t think I fall into the strong opinion category per se, I wouldn’t suggest acrylic to anyone who hasn’t mastered their bending skills. Unless they were only using straight tubing with angled adapters. Just my 2 cents.

Pics of my last build which ran 3 years with petg and never had any issues.
Fair enough I can appreciate your input.

Year ago I ordered # of Bitspower's clear 16mmOD acrylic tubing and I've been asked if I want to try their clear PETG I was reluctant because deep in my mind I knew I would never use it so why waste someones effort, but I said sure, why not, my reasoning was I didn't want to hurt their feelings.

Right of the bat I didn't even like the cheap feel in my hands, It also sounded like a cracked ping pong and If you ever play pin pong and cracked one you would know what I'm talking about, hard to describe opposed to good acrylic that have solid hard texture and nice feel and sound to it and if anyone would say they feel the same..phhh.

Keep in mind, and this is only my "strong" opinion but the way I see it, you could give me miles of free PETG and I would never used them, no one would convince me otherwise.

In fact, my nephew who was using flex tubing for a while and was in transition of switching to hard tubing got PETG and although, he admitted that the material was quick to melt, he even felt to quick, he though he was holding old crusty flex tubing, he didn't like it period... and I'm not just saying that, he didn't even want to proceed and further, he ordered Monsoons acrylic and never looked back and I wasn't even part of his decision I didn't know until afterword.

If you look at one of the Jaztwocents videos, probably from month-two months ago when he was building his new PC, he even mentions PETG and that he will not use it because it felt and he didn't say it directly, but indirectly, but his opinion was that It felt cheap.

Also, If you look on the subject of petg being cheap, in some cases when temperature of liquid gets to high, petg will melt or deform, especially where the tubs are clamped.

PETG was developed to help inpatient and not so handy people with transition of bending and switching to hard tubing a bit more easier and less frustrating, but when comes to choice for high quality WC systems, there is no mistake that acrylic is the way to go, why you think a lot of people going glass these days, its step up from acrylic and that leaves petg at the bottom of choice for a true enthusiasts and users who will appreciate the quality

Its personal preference and how you will feel knowing you have installed one or the other, If you can be happy and not look back and have no regrets Its win-win.
02-21-2020 01:54 PM
jsutter71
Quote: Originally Posted by NewUser16 View Post
Acrylic all the way.

1. Doesn't absorb liquid
2. It has absolutely no limitation on what liquid is used
3. Once bend to your liking, unless you change your component layout, It will last years.
4. Much more clear, then PETG

I have bend acrylic for my STH10 about 8 years ago, still to date looks like has been done yesterday and I have removed and put it together # of times upon upgrading my hardware, can you say the same about PETG?

I personally think, If you going through the effort of heating up and bending one , must well do it once and use the one that will last much longer without all the PETG hard rubber soaking your liquid in.

Site note... If you chose to go with acrylic, from my personal experience Bitspower's acrylic is very solid and durable product
You know I totally respect your opinion but, you know theirs always gonna be a but I recently had the same conversation with a friend who was new to hard tubing and was dead set on acrylic. Like you I have also used both and after weighing the pros and cons made petg my choice in tubing. It’s like ford vs chevy. People tend to have strong opinions towards their choice. Even so, while I Personally don’t think I fall into the strong opinion category per se, I wouldn’t suggest acrylic to anyone who hasn’t mastered their bending skills. Unless they were only using straight tubing with angled adapters. Just my 2 cents.

Pics of my last build which ran 3 years with petg and never had any issues.
02-21-2020 11:10 AM
NewUser16 Acrylic all the way.

1. Doesn't absorb liquid
2. It has absolutely no limitation on what liquid is used
3. Once bend to your liking, unless you change your component layout, It will last years.
4. Much more clear, then PETG

I have bend acrylic for my STH10 about 8 years ago, still to date looks like has been done yesterday and I have removed and put it together # of times upon upgrading my hardware, can you say the same about PETG?

I personally think, If you going through the effort of heating up and bending one , must well do it once and use the one that will last much longer without all the PETG hard rubber soaking your liquid in.

Site note... If you chose to go with acrylic, from my personal experience Bitspower's acrylic is very solid and durable product
02-20-2020 10:13 PM
Mooncheese Sorry to necro this thread, I'm somewhat new to water cooling and have discovered to my dismay that the soft EK Duraclear tubing I used with my first loop 2 years ago has become discolored due to moving the PC to a bright sunny room in new apartment. I wasn't aware that sunlight, particularly direct sunlight could do this to the tubing. Anyhow, now I'm thinking of going hard tubing to avoid this and am seeing in quite a few places that Acrylic doesn't have this problem, but PETG, while not as bad as soft tubing, does suffer from discoloration with UV exposure (direct and presumably indirect, i.e refracting from walls, ceiling and carpet etc.)

I don't want to have to change out the tubing again 2 years hence so therefore I am considering acrylic over PETG, even with all of it's disadvantages.

I hear 12/16 is more durable that 10/12 and is a good choice for someone intent on going this route.

I'm surprised to not see this shortcoming of PETG mentioned much in this thread. Discoloration sucks, if acrylic doesn't do that I'm going that route.

I wont be swinging a hammer in my PC nor will I be moving it Ace Ventura style (putting it in a box and throwing it down stairs). The only way I can see the acrylic breaking is while say maybe needing to repaste the CPU or change the GPU. I can't even see how an entire PC chassis shifting in a box, even rather abruptly, would cause this kind of breakage.

The only real downside I see to it is that you would be forced to use a hacksaw to cut it but even then, it seems to chamfer way better and easier.

Here's how my Duraclear soft-tubing looks after 5-6 months of intermittent (sunny one day, overcast the next) sunlight, about 1 hour of DIRECT sunlight a day (between 3-4 pm the sun will angle where it was directly casting onto PC).

From what I gather PETG will do the same thing in nearly the same amount of time. Actually, the discoloration has been ongoing, I only just seemed to notice it after flushing the system for GPU upgrade.
04-20-2019 08:31 PM
jsutter71 My hard tube bending station. Finally decided to put some thought into the process and stop wasting tubing.
04-13-2019 02:44 AM
Andrew LB
Quote: Originally Posted by NewUser16 View Post
I never understood why people wouldn't go acrylic right from Get-go, you still have to bend PETG, so it takes faster to heat it up, is that the reason you willing to trade for some of the cons of PETG!

On the other hand..acrylic lasts forever, I have never ever cracked any of my tubes, even dropped it few times, acrylic doesn't absorb any liquid and has clearer look, you do it once and your done.
Long story short...Acrylic will always, always be better than PETG in every way you look.

Btw. I'm using Bitspower 16 OD 500mm clear acrylic, its superior product

I spent a lot of time reading threads like this prior to building my first hard tubing loop and I ended up going with Bitspower Crystal Link 14mm Acrylic tubing. There were too many things about PETG that kept me from considering it such as its low deformation temp, incompatibility with glycol based coolants like XT-1 Nuke, and the clarity or lack thereof.
04-10-2019 02:01 AM
Leonko And one more important thing, PETG tubes costs 2times more then acrylic

but when im looking at it right now,... acrylic has thicker wall ? 16/12, PETG - 16/14
04-09-2019 01:23 PM
NewUser16 I never understood why people wouldn't go acrylic right from Get-go, you still have to bend PETG, so it takes faster to heat it up, is that the reason you willing to trade for some of the cons of PETG!

On the other hand..acrylic lasts forever, I have never ever cracked any of my tubes, even dropped it few times, acrylic doesn't absorb any liquid and has clearer look, you do it once and your done.
Long story short...Acrylic will always, always be better than PETG in every way you look.

Btw. I'm using Bitspower 16 OD 500mm clear acrylic, its superior product
04-08-2019 06:57 PM
jsutter71 Just got this monsoon bending kit. Beautiful and very high quality. All metal. I just started appreciating the value of these bending kits. For years I just eye balled it and wasted tons of money on tubing. FYI. I've been using PETG for the last 4 years now and unless your system is running at very high temps and your using cheap tubing then you shouldn't worry. I tried acrylic and it's a PITA to work with. It takes forever to soften while bending and it cracks way to easy. I have all the proper tools for both PETG and acrylic. My system is still the same as my signature and unless I'm running a stress test to remove bubbles never had issues with overheating. During one particular stress test for over heating the gaskets on my Reservoir began leaking way before the PETG did.
12-03-2018 01:45 AM
Jspinks020 Just whatever flex tubing Food grade like stuff. Pretty Tolerant to quite a bit of stuff. That's something a little softer looks like or less or more wall, gets softer warps it etc.
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