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10-22-2019 03:26 PM
Kana-Maru Prime95 still has it's purpose, but be careful with it as with all stress testing. I guess you won't really know how stable a machine unless you stress it for many hours under different conditions. I usually make sure I'm rock solid by stress testing for MANY hours or a few days at a time when I can monitor the machine.

Many years and counting and I've never had a crash @ 4.6Ghz or 4.8Ghz + 1600Mhz RAM or 2000\2100Mhz ECC Server RAM. I Since this machine is so old now I run it at 3.8Ghz most of the time and can still get great FPS @ 4K with 2019 games WHILE recording. Can't wait for RDR2 to release on PC.
10-22-2019 12:07 AM
AeroZ
Quote: Originally Posted by Kana-Maru View Post
Exactly, it’s just a matter of price and making sense. I’ve been getting rid of a lot of programs and junk I haven’t used in years or things that aren’t that important to make space. I do have a pretty good back up. Going mostly SSD was the plan for my next build (and current at some point). I do have 2 SSDs in RAID 0 now, but I got these drives many years ago. HDDs are simply affordable, but there are good 1TB SSDs with great speeds around $90-$110 dollars now. That still doesn’t compare to 1TB to 2TBs HDDs for only $40-$55. The speed makes up for the SSD price though .



SSDs also seems to have better reliability since I’ve been running my 3 SSDs (2 of them in RAID) for several years now. I had a bad experience with a SSD back in 2013. Took awhile to get over that fear lol. I’ve been looking at PCIe M.2 cards and RAID cards.









No problem. You can use quite a few programs. Prime95 is a good one for RAM\CPU and many other components, but be careful not to damage anything from the heat. IntelBurnTest is old and nice + it can really cook the CPU. MemTest64 for RAM. For GPUs you can use Furmark or the presets. Cinebench R10, R11, R15 and R20 are good test to see how stable your build is. There are many others as well, but that should be enough to get your started.


Still the “good ol prime95” then heh. I’ve been using it myself since I started OC’ing when I got a 2500K many years ago.
About a year ago I was able to get a leftover PC with X58 motherboard. At that time it had the i7-920 that I switched out to x5670.
From the sandy bridge days I’m used to using prime for testing as well. After the shorter initial tests I run custom test with full FFT range, 90-95% memory and 10 minutes for each test. If that doesn’t crash for 1-2 days then I claim it as stable.
Do you think that IBT would do the same or better job quicker or long prime test is still the way to go?


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10-21-2019 06:03 PM
Kana-Maru
Quote: Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post
There's plenty of modern cases with great airflow, but it's going to hard to experience that airflow with a bunch of hard drives in the case. They achieve the great airflow was unimpeded air coming through the front panel. Manufacturers are also selling their cases with the lowest HDD support possible needing to purchase brackets to support additional drives. I'm glad I don't need so much HDD space or I wouldn't have been able to go with the ITX case I picked. I'm going to replace a 2.5" drive with a M.2 drive at some point. Just a matter of the price making sense.
Exactly, it’s just a matter of price and making sense. I’ve been getting rid of a lot of programs and junk I haven’t used in years or things that aren’t that important to make space. I do have a pretty good back up. Going mostly SSD was the plan for my next build (and current at some point). I do have 2 SSDs in RAID 0 now, but I got these drives many years ago. HDDs are simply affordable, but there are good 1TB SSDs with great speeds around $90-$110 dollars now. That still doesn’t compare to 1TB to 2TBs HDDs for only $40-$55. The speed makes up for the SSD price though .

SSDs also seems to have better reliability since I’ve been running my 3 SSDs (2 of them in RAID) for several years now. I had a bad experience with a SSD back in 2013. Took awhile to get over that fear lol. I’ve been looking at PCIe M.2 cards and RAID cards.


Quote: Originally Posted by AeroZ View Post
Sorry for being lazy and not searching through this huge thread but which programs do you use to test OC stability?
No problem. You can use quite a few programs. Prime95 is a good one for RAM\CPU and many other components, but be careful not to damage anything from the heat. IntelBurnTest is old and nice + it can really cook the CPU. MemTest64 for RAM. For GPUs you can use Furmark or the presets. Cinebench R10, R11, R15 and R20 are good test to see how stable your build is. There are many others as well, but that should be enough to get your started.
10-21-2019 05:15 AM
AeroZ
Quote: Originally Posted by Kana-Maru View Post
I'm "thinking" about buying another Mid-Tower case to replace my old 2013 NZXT. The only issue is most of the newer cases is that although they look nice they have has limited support for things I need\use. Features such fan controllers and expansion slots such as 4 HDD slots + 2 HDD slots for RAID 10 and RAID 1 setup. I guess I could switch to all SSDs to replace my HDDs, but the HDDs (2TBs+) prices are so much more reasonable.

Plus I have a fan controller (5.25mm) then there's the issue of air flow. The older X58 NEEDS great air flow which appears to be lacking in a lot of nice looking cases. The AIOs also don't seem that great since older hotter units aren't the target. I wish I could find my older Kuhler CPU cooler, but they no longer make them, but my current AIO for now.

Then again I guess I could use that money I would spend on a nice case to get more performance upgrades or something. I don't know. I never know since I'm still enjoying this platform and plan on getting as much performance out of it before I build a new PC.
Sorry for being lazy and not searching through this huge thread but which programs do you use to test OC stability?
10-11-2019 02:12 PM
chessmyantidrug There's plenty of modern cases with great airflow, but it's going to hard to experience that airflow with a bunch of hard drives in the case. They achieve the great airflow was unimpeded air coming through the front panel. Manufacturers are also selling their cases with the lowest HDD support possible needing to purchase brackets to support additional drives. I'm glad I don't need so much HDD space or I wouldn't have been able to go with the ITX case I picked. I'm going to replace a 2.5" drive with a M.2 drive at some point. Just a matter of the price making sense.
10-06-2019 09:28 AM
Kana-Maru I'm "thinking" about buying another Mid-Tower case to replace my old 2013 NZXT. The only issue is most of the newer cases is that although they look nice they have has limited support for things I need\use. Features such fan controllers and expansion slots such as 4 HDD slots + 2 HDD slots for RAID 10 and RAID 1 setup. I guess I could switch to all SSDs to replace my HDDs, but the HDDs (2TBs+) prices are so much more reasonable.

Plus I have a fan controller (5.25mm) then there's the issue of air flow. The older X58 NEEDS great air flow which appears to be lacking in a lot of nice looking cases. The AIOs also don't seem that great since older hotter units aren't the target. I wish I could find my older Kuhler CPU cooler, but they no longer make them, but my current AIO for now.

Then again I guess I could use that money I would spend on a nice case to get more performance upgrades or something. I don't know. I never know since I'm still enjoying this platform and plan on getting as much performance out of it before I build a new PC.
09-20-2019 07:21 PM
99belle99 It needs more voltage though for 4.807GHz for some reason. I can get 4.784GHz at that low voltage but for those extra Hz the voltage goes up. Still a pretty good chip.
09-19-2019 12:52 AM
the matty
Quote: Originally Posted by 99belle99 View Post
I must have a good 5660 as I can do 4.2GHz @ 1.3v daily never bothered to go any lower as it's stable like that for a few years. It can do 4.784Ghz @ 1.42v and I'm a bit worried about above comment about the chip degrading at 4.8Ghz while benching as I do that sometimes and I hope I don't degrade this chip as it seems to be a good one.
1.42v isn't going to degrade the chip in any way shape or form, or not in less than 2 years anyways, I degraded my X5670 pushing 1.52v, around 1.42v you're not going to have any issues, but either way the higher skews up to the X5675 tend to be better binned in my finding, my X5660 will do 4.2GHz with 1.32v but for even 4.5GHz it needs 1.45v and for 4.6GHz it needs 1.5v but that seems to be an average bin for an X5660 so you definitely have a unicorn level bin there if it does 4.7 at 1.42v
09-18-2019 04:22 PM
99belle99 I must have a good 5660 as I can do 4.2GHz @ 1.3v daily never bothered to go any lower as it's stable like that for a few years. It can do 4.784Ghz @ 1.42v and I'm a bit worried about above comment about the chip degrading at 4.8Ghz while benching as I do that sometimes and I hope I don't degrade this chip as it seems to be a good one.
09-18-2019 10:17 AM
the matty
Quote: Originally Posted by SmOgER View Post
I've personally found motherboard to be a more limiting factor than the CPU itself.
this is true to an extent yes but the the higher end skews like the X5670 and the X5675 tend to be better binned, even on my borderline god tier bin rampage 3 gene (does 220 bclk with only 1.25v into the chipset) I've had much more success running X5670s and X5675s rather than X5650s and X5660s, of the 15 X5650s I've put through this board only one has done 4.5GHz with vcore at 1.4v, of the 7 X5660s I've put through this board only two did 4.5GHz at the same vcore, as for the X5670s of the 5 I've run in this all of them have done 4.5GHz with 1.4v or less (my main X5670 did 4.5GHz with 1.32v before it degraded running 4.8GHz 1.52v for benching) and I've found this to be the norm for X5670s, I've yet to have an X5670 that wouldn't do 4.5GHz with 1.4v or less, I've only had 5 X5670s in this particular board but I've had 25 or 30 X5670's across this board and other boards and not a single one has needed more than 1.4v for 4.5GHz, the board does make a difference but the higher skews are usually binned better, at least within the 95w chips anyways, I've not had much luck with the 130w parts
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