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04-06-2020 07:46 PM
Kana-Maru
Quote: Originally Posted by 99belle99 View Post
I made the switch to a 3700X a good few months ago. I also had a Fury X and then a Vega 56 and currently a 5700 XT. I also game at 4k on a large HDR Tv.

If the 4000 series follows the trend with previous Ryzen chips it will be a serious set of chips and would even be a upgrade for me on my 3700X which I might do as all I would have to buy is a new CPU.

The 4000 series might be delayed due to CV19. It will be releasing the end of this year or even into the beginning of 2021 if delayed.
That's great to hear about the 3700X. I thought about getting a the 3000 series or a Threadripper, but I didn't want those fans on my X570 MB. I like to build once and use the rig for years. Many people told me that my X58 wasn't "future proof", something I will be writing about soon, but honestly I'm kinda re-thinking the "future proof" stuff. I really enjoy building gaming rigs so I could get something that would last a few years instead of 5+ years. Decisions.....descions.....build for a few years or a decade lol. AMD has so many cores and performance that it would be easy to build for at least 6 years now.

I'm looking forward to AMDs 7nm. I really wish I could get my hands on a good RX Vega 64 Liquid Cooled to replace my AIO Fury X. I guess I'll wait and see what big Navi brings to the table against Nvidia this time around.
04-06-2020 03:23 PM
99belle99
Quote: Originally Posted by Kana-Maru View Post

Also good quick info. Getting to 3.8Ghz - 4Ghz is fairly easy with STOCK settings for the most part. At least I didn't need to mess with the QPI settings etc.

4.2Ghz might require some tweaking, but usually not much.

I'm still rolling with my X58 + Fury X. I normally use my Xeon @ 3.8Ghz and the Fury X @ Stock and can still enjoy bearky MAX 4K gaming in the games I love to play. 1440p has always been the sweet spot depending on the game and FPS I need.

I'm pretty sure when Ryzen 4000 series drops I'm upgrading, but heck I been saying that for like....I don't know 4 or 5 years now (been using my X58 since 2011). It sucks that I know exactly how much horsepower I need - I wish I didn't know so I could just blast through money.

I still record (at 4K) and Stream games with no problems either. I literally have no need to upgrade ugh, but it's time to leave this old tech behind. I'm pretty sure I won't be going Intel like I've said since late 2014 since non of their CPUs was not worth the upgrade to me. Ryzen came along and looks like a great upgrade.

I also stand by my Fury X review in 2015, it was and IS still a great GPU that continues to surprise me yearly. Still going strong in 2020. I run my own benchmarks by the way. I love the way it can handle RE2 nearly maxed out in 4K. Great little card.
I made the switch to a 3700X a good few months ago. I also had a Fury X and then a Vega 56 and currently a 5700 XT. I also game at 4k on a large HDR Tv.

If the 4000 series follows the trend with previous Ryzen chips it will be a serious set of chips and would even be a upgrade for me on my 3700X which I might do as all I would have to buy is a new CPU.

The 4000 series might be delayed due to CV19. It will be releasing the end of this year or even into the beginning of 2021 if delayed.
04-06-2020 12:17 PM
Kana-Maru
Quote: Originally Posted by paiNsage View Post
Hey Kana,i wanted to ask you if you could explain a bit of your thinking process when overclocking,i guess i want to ask you how to overclock my x5660 chip.. Seeing that the website on the first page is down,the only way was through a message... These are my specs:
X5660
P6T SE motherboard
3x4 (12gb) Micron ddr3 1600mhz memory
650w Cooler master MWE Bronze PSU
Snowman cooler with 6 heat pipes (Still waiting for it to arrive )
I've asked a few people on the forums,and they said that you were the god of X58 Xeon overclocking,so i wanted to learn from the best (if possible )
Im basically a newbie on x58,never had it,so this is the first time.. If you could explain a bit of your overclocking methods,that would be great..
Thanks for your time and effort .
Hey man sorry for such a late reply. I did get your PM and I have replied to it. Hope you see this post or that message.


Quote: Originally Posted by 99belle99 View Post
BCLK: 200
Multi x 21

Turbo off, All other power saving on.

Vcore 1.3 V

QPI/Vtt: 1.235V everything else auto

It's a while since I messed with my X58 so this all from memory but I was running my X5660 at 4.2GHz for a few years and could push to 4.6GHz and 4.8GHz for benchmarks. But 4.2GHz is best all rounder not putting too much strain on system.

Another thing QPI is 7200 and RAM multipier set it so RAM is 1600MHz.
Also good quick info. Getting to 3.8Ghz - 4Ghz is fairly easy with STOCK settings for the most part. At least I didn't need to mess with the QPI settings etc.

4.2Ghz might require some tweaking, but usually not much.

I'm still rolling with my X58 + Fury X. I normally use my Xeon @ 3.8Ghz and the Fury X @ Stock and can still enjoy bearky MAX 4K gaming in the games I love to play. 1440p has always been the sweet spot depending on the game and FPS I need.

I'm pretty sure when Ryzen 4000 series drops I'm upgrading, but heck I been saying that for like....I don't know 4 or 5 years now (been using my X58 since 2011). It sucks that I know exactly how much horsepower I need - I wish I didn't know so I could just blast through money.

I still record (at 4K) and Stream games with no problems either. I literally have no need to upgrade ugh, but it's time to leave this old tech behind. I'm pretty sure I won't be going Intel like I've said since late 2014 since non of their CPUs was not worth the upgrade to me. Ryzen came along and looks like a great upgrade.

I also stand by my Fury X review in 2015, it was and IS still a great GPU that continues to surprise me yearly. Still going strong in 2020. I run my own benchmarks by the way. I love the way it can handle RE2 nearly maxed out in 4K. Great little card.
02-09-2020 01:31 PM
99belle99 BCLK: 200
Multi x 21

Turbo off, All other power saving on.

Vcore 1.3 V

QPI/Vtt: 1.235V everything else auto

It's a while since I messed with my X58 so this all from memory but I was running my X5660 at 4.2GHz for a few years and could push to 4.6GHz and 4.8GHz for benchmarks. But 4.2GHz is best all rounder not putting too much strain on system.

Another thing QPI is 7200 and RAM multipier set it so RAM is 1600MHz.
02-08-2020 01:22 PM
paiNsage Hey Kana,i wanted to ask you if you could explain a bit of your thinking process when overclocking,i guess i want to ask you how to overclock my x5660 chip.. Seeing that the website on the first page is down,the only way was through a message... These are my specs:
X5660
P6T SE motherboard
3x4 (12gb) Micron ddr3 1600mhz memory
650w Cooler master MWE Bronze PSU
Snowman cooler with 6 heat pipes (Still waiting for it to arrive )
I've asked a few people on the forums,and they said that you were the god of X58 Xeon overclocking,so i wanted to learn from the best (if possible )
Im basically a newbie on x58,never had it,so this is the first time.. If you could explain a bit of your overclocking methods,that would be great..
Thanks for your time and effort .
10-22-2019 02:26 PM
Kana-Maru Prime95 still has it's purpose, but be careful with it as with all stress testing. I guess you won't really know how stable a machine unless you stress it for many hours under different conditions. I usually make sure I'm rock solid by stress testing for MANY hours or a few days at a time when I can monitor the machine.

Many years and counting and I've never had a crash @ 4.6Ghz or 4.8Ghz + 1600Mhz RAM or 2000\2100Mhz ECC Server RAM. I Since this machine is so old now I run it at 3.8Ghz most of the time and can still get great FPS @ 4K with 2019 games WHILE recording. Can't wait for RDR2 to release on PC.
10-21-2019 11:07 PM
AeroZ
Quote: Originally Posted by Kana-Maru View Post
Exactly, it’s just a matter of price and making sense. I’ve been getting rid of a lot of programs and junk I haven’t used in years or things that aren’t that important to make space. I do have a pretty good back up. Going mostly SSD was the plan for my next build (and current at some point). I do have 2 SSDs in RAID 0 now, but I got these drives many years ago. HDDs are simply affordable, but there are good 1TB SSDs with great speeds around $90-$110 dollars now. That still doesn’t compare to 1TB to 2TBs HDDs for only $40-$55. The speed makes up for the SSD price though .



SSDs also seems to have better reliability since I’ve been running my 3 SSDs (2 of them in RAID) for several years now. I had a bad experience with a SSD back in 2013. Took awhile to get over that fear lol. I’ve been looking at PCIe M.2 cards and RAID cards.









No problem. You can use quite a few programs. Prime95 is a good one for RAM\CPU and many other components, but be careful not to damage anything from the heat. IntelBurnTest is old and nice + it can really cook the CPU. MemTest64 for RAM. For GPUs you can use Furmark or the presets. Cinebench R10, R11, R15 and R20 are good test to see how stable your build is. There are many others as well, but that should be enough to get your started.


Still the “good ol prime95” then heh. I’ve been using it myself since I started OC’ing when I got a 2500K many years ago.
About a year ago I was able to get a leftover PC with X58 motherboard. At that time it had the i7-920 that I switched out to x5670.
From the sandy bridge days I’m used to using prime for testing as well. After the shorter initial tests I run custom test with full FFT range, 90-95% memory and 10 minutes for each test. If that doesn’t crash for 1-2 days then I claim it as stable.
Do you think that IBT would do the same or better job quicker or long prime test is still the way to go?


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10-21-2019 05:03 PM
Kana-Maru
Quote: Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post
There's plenty of modern cases with great airflow, but it's going to hard to experience that airflow with a bunch of hard drives in the case. They achieve the great airflow was unimpeded air coming through the front panel. Manufacturers are also selling their cases with the lowest HDD support possible needing to purchase brackets to support additional drives. I'm glad I don't need so much HDD space or I wouldn't have been able to go with the ITX case I picked. I'm going to replace a 2.5" drive with a M.2 drive at some point. Just a matter of the price making sense.
Exactly, it’s just a matter of price and making sense. I’ve been getting rid of a lot of programs and junk I haven’t used in years or things that aren’t that important to make space. I do have a pretty good back up. Going mostly SSD was the plan for my next build (and current at some point). I do have 2 SSDs in RAID 0 now, but I got these drives many years ago. HDDs are simply affordable, but there are good 1TB SSDs with great speeds around $90-$110 dollars now. That still doesn’t compare to 1TB to 2TBs HDDs for only $40-$55. The speed makes up for the SSD price though .

SSDs also seems to have better reliability since I’ve been running my 3 SSDs (2 of them in RAID) for several years now. I had a bad experience with a SSD back in 2013. Took awhile to get over that fear lol. I’ve been looking at PCIe M.2 cards and RAID cards.


Quote: Originally Posted by AeroZ View Post
Sorry for being lazy and not searching through this huge thread but which programs do you use to test OC stability?
No problem. You can use quite a few programs. Prime95 is a good one for RAM\CPU and many other components, but be careful not to damage anything from the heat. IntelBurnTest is old and nice + it can really cook the CPU. MemTest64 for RAM. For GPUs you can use Furmark or the presets. Cinebench R10, R11, R15 and R20 are good test to see how stable your build is. There are many others as well, but that should be enough to get your started.
10-21-2019 04:15 AM
AeroZ
Quote: Originally Posted by Kana-Maru View Post
I'm "thinking" about buying another Mid-Tower case to replace my old 2013 NZXT. The only issue is most of the newer cases is that although they look nice they have has limited support for things I need\use. Features such fan controllers and expansion slots such as 4 HDD slots + 2 HDD slots for RAID 10 and RAID 1 setup. I guess I could switch to all SSDs to replace my HDDs, but the HDDs (2TBs+) prices are so much more reasonable.

Plus I have a fan controller (5.25mm) then there's the issue of air flow. The older X58 NEEDS great air flow which appears to be lacking in a lot of nice looking cases. The AIOs also don't seem that great since older hotter units aren't the target. I wish I could find my older Kuhler CPU cooler, but they no longer make them, but my current AIO for now.

Then again I guess I could use that money I would spend on a nice case to get more performance upgrades or something. I don't know. I never know since I'm still enjoying this platform and plan on getting as much performance out of it before I build a new PC.
Sorry for being lazy and not searching through this huge thread but which programs do you use to test OC stability?
10-11-2019 01:12 PM
chessmyantidrug There's plenty of modern cases with great airflow, but it's going to hard to experience that airflow with a bunch of hard drives in the case. They achieve the great airflow was unimpeded air coming through the front panel. Manufacturers are also selling their cases with the lowest HDD support possible needing to purchase brackets to support additional drives. I'm glad I don't need so much HDD space or I wouldn't have been able to go with the ITX case I picked. I'm going to replace a 2.5" drive with a M.2 drive at some point. Just a matter of the price making sense.
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