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07-31-2020 01:26 PM
Kana-Maru
Quote: Originally Posted by realcapone View Post
Thanks for the help as always. I'll try to post some screenshots later for a little bit help. I would definitely agree that this platform will be fine for at least a year or so. I'm looking at the 4 or 5 series for AMD as a replacement(not really) =)

I have my system stable now at 3550-3580 uncore , 3759 QPI clock and 3968 core clock as shown in HWinFO. Just wanted to explore a bit with higher QPI speeds though my QPI/VTT is already at 1.31 and I've destroyed my mobo's eps socket (burnt) when I pushed it a bit further than what I usually give it, not exactly sure though but that's the reason my revision 1 board is unusable atm. I may have to desolder and replace the socket.

I think I've read that when I revisited this page but I'll give it a good read tonight.
It's no problem at all man. Screenshots always help. 4000 and 5000 will be more than enough I bet. Anything is more than enough than X58 though. 3550-3380 is pretty decent with a 3.9Ghz OC. If you go higher with QPI then you'll more than likely need to increase the QPI\VTT Voltage for stability in most cases. You might not want to push it to far since your MB has already suffered damage. Take it easy and fine the settings that you need for daily usage and gaming sessions.

For me I'm running 3.8Ghz @ 1.16v and I've managed to get my 3.8Ghz idle voltage down to 1.06v. ECC Buffered DDR3 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24, but I can use tighter timings I guess and I have pushed it towards 2100Mhz with great timings in the past. I'm also using 3800Mhz Uncore. Yeah check out the article whenever you want. There is also a comparison for the Vega 64 vs the 5700XT 2060S\2070Super + GTX 1080 + 1080 Ti as well.
07-31-2020 07:24 AM
realcapone
Quote: Originally Posted by Kana-Maru View Post
No problem man, I've been trying to help for years. Yeah that's fine if you are reading less than what you see in Windows since it might be off a little. My current QPI is x18 I believe. The stock QPI with stock BCLK is x24 from what I can remember. Try to get CL9 is possible, but it's not the end of the word and I understand if you don't want to invest any money in this old platform. Having a SSD will make things much quicker as well for daily tasks.

For QPI voltage there usually a QPI\VTT voltage settings or something similar. Sometimes it'll say QPI\DRAM Voltage, but it's really just QPI and the DRAM voltage is obviously separate (DRAM Bus Voltage ).

If you want to see how my X58 with "basic" overclock settings and daily usage is performing in High End gaming check out my Vega 64 + X58 in 2020 review:

https://overclock-then-game.com/inde...newine-edition

I think we will be fine with gaming on this platform for at least another year or so. Maybe longer...who knows. AMD and Intel will be releasing their newer architectures later this year and early next year. I hope I can manage to get AMDs RDNA\Navi GPUs to work on the X58. Hopefully the prices are better than Nvidia.

Thanks for the help as always. I'll try to post some screenshots later for a little bit help. I would definitely agree that this platform will be fine for at least a year or so. I'm looking at the 4 or 5 series for AMD as a replacement(not really) =)

I have my system stable now at 3550-3580 uncore , 3759 QPI clock and 3968 core clock as shown in HWinFO. Just wanted to explore a bit with higher QPI speeds though my QPI/VTT is already at 1.31 and I've destroyed my mobo's eps socket (burnt) when I pushed it a bit further than what I usually give it, not exactly sure though but that's the reason my revision 1 board is unusable atm. I may have to desolder and replace the socket.

I think I've read that when I revisited this page but I'll give it a good read tonight.
07-31-2020 06:56 AM
Kana-Maru
Quote: Originally Posted by realcapone View Post
Yes I have that option in my mobo, it's based on a multiplier x36 x44 etc but can't seem to get it to boot at x44(6400MT\s). What voltage is affecting this?

Also I've set my uncore multiplier to yield 3600 but just shows 3557 in Windows, less than what it needs to be same with the cpu clock. Is that okay?

My mems are bad CL 11 lol . This was the cheapest I can get 2 or 3 years ago, I see better mems now but I don't want to purchase so I'll stick with this. Thanks for the reply.
No problem man, I've been trying to help for years. Yeah that's fine if you are reading less than what you see in Windows since it might be off a little. My current QPI is x18 I believe. The stock QPI with stock BCLK is x24 from what I can remember. Try to get CL9 is possible, but it's not the end of the word and I understand if you don't want to invest any money in this old platform. Having a SSD will make things much quicker as well for daily tasks.

For QPI voltage there usually a QPI\VTT voltage settings or something similar. Sometimes it'll say QPI\DRAM Voltage, but it's really just QPI and the DRAM voltage is obviously separate (DRAM Bus Voltage ).

If you want to see how my X58 with "basic" overclock settings and daily usage is performing in High End gaming check out my Vega 64 + X58 in 2020 review:

https://overclock-then-game.com/inde...newine-edition

I think we will be fine with gaming on this platform for at least another year or so. Maybe longer...who knows. AMD and Intel will be releasing their newer architectures later this year and early next year. I hope I can manage to get AMDs RDNA\Navi GPUs to work on the X58. Hopefully the prices are better than Nvidia.
07-30-2020 08:05 PM
realcapone
Quote: Originally Posted by Kana-Maru View Post
There is usually a setting where you can increase or decrease the QPI Link Data Rate. It usually shows a number\frequency like 4800MT\s or 6400MT\s and so on. At least on my motherboard I can set it manually. The lowest I can set is slow mode.

Getting 3600Mhz on the Uncore shouldn't be to much of a problem, but it will usually require more QPI\VTT Voltage and possibly more vCore voltage as well.

For memory - 1600Mhz with 9-9-9-24 will be fine for gaming and everyday use. I recently ran 64+ individual tests in my most recent article and had no problems with the Vega 64 on the X58. The results were outstanding. X58 lives on. 3.6Ghz - 4Ghz should be all you really need for gaming and streaming.

Yes I have that option in my mobo, it's based on a multiplier x36 x44 etc but can't seem to get it to boot at x44(6400MT\s). What voltage is affecting this?

Also I've set my uncore multiplier to yield 3600 but just shows 3557 in Windows, less than what it needs to be same with the cpu clock. Is that okay?

My mems are bad CL 11 lol . This was the cheapest I can get 2 or 3 years ago, I see better mems now but I don't want to purchase so I'll stick with this. Thanks for the reply.
07-30-2020 06:50 PM
Kana-Maru
Quote: Originally Posted by realcapone View Post
Kana - how to increase QPI from 4.8G\s to 6.4GT and above without touching the BLCK? Change the multiplier? I have mine set at x36 and if I set it to x44 I can't boot. Goal right now is 3.8 - 4.0 ghz with 3600 uncore or higher if possible for daily use. My memory stick latency sucks so I'll not even bother with it.
There is usually a setting where you can increase or decrease the QPI Link Data Rate. It usually shows a number\frequency like 4800MT\s or 6400MT\s and so on. At least on my motherboard I can set it manually. The lowest I can set is slow mode.

Getting 3600Mhz on the Uncore shouldn't be to much of a problem, but it will usually require more QPI\VTT Voltage and possibly more vCore voltage as well.

For memory - 1600Mhz with 9-9-9-24 will be fine for gaming and everyday use. I recently ran 64+ individual tests in my most recent article and had no problems with the Vega 64 on the X58. The results were outstanding. X58 lives on. 3.6Ghz - 4Ghz should be all you really need for gaming and streaming.
07-30-2020 04:03 PM
realcapone
Quote: Originally Posted by Kana-Maru View Post
Ok now once you are stable and you are SURE you are stable start increasing the QPI from 4.8GT\s to 6.4GT and test. Then from 6.4GT to 7.0-7.2GT\s then test and test and test. Now you might need to adjust the QPI Vcore as well as the IOH voltage slightly if you are having stability issues.
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Kana - how to increase QPI from 4.8G\s to 6.4GT and above without touching the BLCK? Change the multiplier? I have mine set at x36 and if I set it to x44 I can't boot. Goal right now is 3.8 - 4.0 ghz with 3600 uncore or higher if possible for daily use. My memory stick latency sucks so I'll not even bother with it.
07-24-2020 06:10 AM
Kana-Maru
Quote: Originally Posted by realcapone View Post
Does the X5675 work with ASUS P6T SE? My x58-UD3R just gave up and I wanted to replace it with another x58 and cheapest I saw is the ASUS P6T SE. I'm buying this temporarily while waiting for Ryzen 4 to come out. Which board should I best be looking for (I'll see if there are cheap ones)? Thank you
Check here for a full list of boards known to work with Westmere's:

https://overclock-then-game.com/inde...owall=&start=9

It was compiled years back, but it's not like they are making new motherboards now
07-13-2020 08:50 PM
realcapone Does the X5675 work with ASUS P6T SE? My x58-UD3R just gave up and I wanted to replace it with another x58 and cheapest I saw is the ASUS P6T SE. I'm buying this temporarily while waiting for Ryzen 4 to come out. Which board should I best be looking for (I'll see if there are cheap ones)? Thank you
07-06-2020 04:01 PM
Fobia2000
Quote: Originally Posted by Kana-Maru View Post
What other settings did you pump into the motherboard and CPU in addition to the 1.8vCore? If you really want to destroy some stuff and I mean a lot of stuff, increase the PCIe Frequency and push that CPU PLL up along with those high overclocks....I'd like to know what dies first.

I don’t remember exactly what the parameters were, but I remembered that I achieved the maximum multiplier by turning on the Turbo boost and turning HT off to lower the temperature. At that time, I was just starting my way as an overclocker.
I tried to increase the frequency of pci-e, it leads to a system crash. In the future I will conduct a couple of experiments. add a couple of corpses to my collection of CPU or motherboard =)
07-05-2020 06:16 PM
Fobia2000
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