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12-10-2019 08:13 AM
hazium233 Ha, right.

Have seen complaints of vibration causing the bottom dust filter to rattle when HDDs are directly mounted to the bottom of this case. It sort of has a vibration every once and a while with them in the cage anyway though.

I didn't mention them earlier, but the P14 PWM is only ~$10 at Amazon. Went through the P12 P14 thread last night, seemed to be some strong opinions in there. I don't think I am going to get to tearing the computer apart until the holidays anyway, so I have some time.
12-10-2019 06:09 AM
doyll What Shenhua said.
If you are lazy like me, HDDs can just set on bottom without any mount at all.

Vercro tape works well as a vibration dampter. The kind that has sticky back. Only problem is it sometimes pulls the sticky side loose when removing HDD.
12-09-2019 08:49 AM
Shenhua You can mount storage directly on the floor. Unless you have like 3 HDD. And even then, you can mount them on the top of the case.

Walls are the best option for mounting storage without, screwing up airflow.
12-09-2019 08:33 AM
hazium233 Thanks for the input, all.

Quote: Originally Posted by deepor View Post
@hazium233 :

There is a 4-pin PWM and also a 3-pin version of the SW3-HS, so make sure you are not by mistake buying a 3-pin if you really want 4-pin.
Right. I should have specified, all of the ones I was listing above were for 140mm PWM versions.

Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
If I was setting up Meshify C I would remove PCIe slot cover from back of case and stock fans replacing them with 2x good 140mm front and probably 1x 120mm bottom intakes and use no exhaust fans. Top venting might need block off except for back 100mm or so.
Yeah, I removed the PCIe covers. There is a bit of flow reversal when the GPU fans spin up. I am not surprised, I used to knock them all out on my old cheap cases with stamped slots. The top does leak some air towards the front, with the GP12 it is only like the first third. As for the rest of the length, that turns into intake depending on what the Wraith Prism and rear fan are doing it would seem. I might end up blocking the whole thing just for dust purposes, because it isn't as if the magnetic mesh does much of that.

Quote:
Bottom intake should help GPU. Also raising case up on taller feet or on open center caster base helps airflow to bottom vents.

2x PH-F140MP in front and possible 1x 120mm in bottom

Problem is TY-147A is 140x153mm with 120mm fan mount spacing (105mm hole spacing) so won't fit in all fan openings.

As deepor posted, both PWM and variable voltage are good. Just make sure your motherboard can speed control whichever you get.
Yes, I don't think I can do a fan mounted horizontally on the very bottom with the drives in there, but I haven't really looked at how far they can go backwards. I was thinking front might be an ok compromise, there is mounting a little further rearward I think.

I tried to ask the poster in that Fractal thread if he had to trim / square the fan to fit it in that spot. The mounting slots for 120mm are basically available most all the height of the front IIRC, and I think those fans might fit the width without trimming anyway.

Board is an X370-F and all the fans headers are PWM... although I think the AIO one might have odd control (never used it, just read about it).

Quote: Originally Posted by Shenhua View Post
I have the same case, and almost identical GPU (1080strix). And i already tryed and tested a lot of things. At first i was running 2x140 on the front and 1x120mm on the rear.

Remove HDD cage, clear the excess cables and tuck them behind the motherboard. The storage mount it on the floor of the case. Remove the top of the PSU shroud aswell and most or all pcie brackets. That should give you about 5 to 10°C improvement on GPU side.

Doesn't really matter enough if you place 2x140mm+120mm or 3x120mm in the front, at least not enough to care (i have the first).

A rear fan does improve things aswell for the GPU, but again, since the impact it's not big, it can be discarded. I did it.

In my case i took the next step and modded the GPU aswell with 2x120mm silent wings. That got me another 8-10°C improvement.

Before, my card was sitting at 72-78°C.
Now it sits at 57-63, but with a reduction in noise like 4 times lower. If i would run the system at same noise level, the improvement in GPU temps, probably goes over 20°C Delta.
Yes, I saw some of your posts, which is part of what made me think I should probably pull the PSU cover instead of just doing twin 140mm in the front.

I need to look into the other mounting options for my hard drives, I am not ready to remove spinning disks completely any time soon.

Also saw your post of suggestions to Fractal, it was pretty much spot on. Although I go back and forth on the length, it is sort of nice that it doesn't stick out as far where I have it located. Real shame that more of the shroud isn't removable though.

Although this case is all right in some ways, I was starting to wonder if I should just try a different one. But I figured I might as well do fans for now. Could always put them in the next one if I do change.

Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
I forgot to say all openings in front fan mounting panel not covered by fans need to be blocked off so the air fans are pushing into case does not leak back in front of them, but move back and out of case.
Didn't think of this, thanks.
12-09-2019 07:52 AM
doyll I forgot to say all openings in front fan mounting panel not covered by fans need to be blocked off so the air fans are pushing into case does not leak back in front of them, but move back and out of case.
12-09-2019 07:43 AM
Shenhua
Quote: Originally Posted by hazium233 View Post
I have read a fair amount of this thread, and done some searches, but I was hoping to get a couple opinions on options for improving my Meshify C. I have a bit of an unorthodox grab bag setup now with an Arctic F14 right above the PSU shroud at the front, one of the GP12's above it, and the other original GP12 as a rear exhaust.



I currently have a 2060 Strix in the case, and it is a long card ~300mm, and so it sits about 1.5cm or less from the rear of the front intake 140mm. When I bought the case earlier in the year, I only had an EVGA 1060 SC, and at the time I didn't think I would end up owning an absurd length card, but I got a deal and here we are. I removed rear PCIe slots, although I have to run a WIFI card in one of the slots so it isn't completely unobstructed back there.



I am a bit airflow limited to the GPU, not that this is surprising based on the size of the case, reviews, and some others' experiences with it. For an example, in Superposition, I have ~2-3C difference between glass panel off and on. If I spin up the F14 a bit more, it seems to make a somewhat annoying noise.



I was thinking of at the least replacing the GP12s with something better, perhaps going with at least one Phanteks F140MP, and maybe pulling the shroud and getting a decent 120mm fan to go at the bottom of the front. Was looking for opinions on whether or not I should just get 2x140MP and toss the F14, or if it that fan might be more effective moved to the top of the front where it is just blowing at the ram and CPU. Either way ending up with an all intake configuration with 2x140mm and 1x120mm along the front. Maybe another 120mm rear, I don't know. I have 2 hard disks in the shroud, so intake from the floor/bottom isn't an option.



I saw that someone in the Fractal case thread had installed a Thermalright 147A at the bottom-front location in his Meshify C. I think that setup had a 140mm at the top-front, a 120mm in the middle-front, and then the 147A.



Thoughts? Is the proximity of the GPU to the front fans a problem that better fans won't overcome? If I could drop temperatures and noise with the fans it may be worth it even though I only paid $60 for this case new, and it looks like I could match that in fans if I am not careful. I would probably be getting them from Amazon, the F140MP looks to be one of the better ones for the money on there.



On Amazon prices look like this (shipped):



Phanteks PH F140MP - $15

Noctua P14 Redux 1500 - $15

TY147A (round) - $18

beQuiet SW3 High Speed - $23

TY147A SQ - $29 (shipped from the UK)



edit:



ebay seems to have some interesting listings.



TY147A (round) - $11

SW3 High Speed - $12.68 / fan for 2.



These are supposedly new open box, but no accessories. I have a bit of skepticism for ebay items listed as open box and new, but maybe it is worth taking a chance on those SW3s.
I have the same case, and almost identical GPU (1080strix). And i already tryed and tested a lot of things. At first i was running 2x140 on the front and 1x120mm on the rear.

Remove HDD cage, clear the excess cables and tuck them behind the motherboard. The storage mount it on the floor of the case. Remove the top of the PSU shroud aswell and most or all pcie brackets. That should give you about 5 to 10°C improvement on GPU side.

Doesn't really matter enough if you place 2x140mm+120mm or 3x120mm in the front, at least not enough to care (i have the first).

A rear fan does improve things aswell for the GPU, but again, since the impact it's not big, it can be discarded. I did it.

In my case i took the next step and modded the GPU aswell with 2x120mm silent wings. That got me another 8-10°C improvement.

Before, my card was sitting at 72-78°C.
Now it sits at 57-63, but with a reduction in noise like 4 times lower. If i would run the system at same noise level, the improvement in GPU temps, probably goes over 20°C Delta.
12-09-2019 06:48 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by hazium233 View Post
I have read a fair amount of this thread, and done some searches, but I was hoping to get a couple opinions on options for improving my Meshify C. I have a bit of an unorthodox grab bag setup now with an Arctic F14 right above the PSU shroud at the front, one of the GP12's above it, and the other original GP12 as a rear exhaust.
If I was setting up Meshify C I would remove PCIe slot cover from back of case and stock fans replacing them with 2x good 140mm front and probably 1x 120mm bottom intakes and use no exhaust fans. Top venting might need block off except for back 100mm or so.

Quote: Originally Posted by hazium233 View Post
I currently have a 2060 Strix in the case, and it is a long card ~300mm, and so it sits about 1.5cm or less from the rear of the front intake 140mm. When I bought the case earlier in the year, I only had an EVGA 1060 SC, and at the time I didn't think I would end up owning an absurd length card, but I got a deal and here we are. I removed rear PCIe slots, although I have to run a WIFI card in one of the slots so it isn't completely unobstructed back there.


I am a bit airflow limited to the GPU, not that this is surprising based on the size of the case, reviews, and some others' experiences with it. For an example, in Superposition, I have ~2-3C difference between glass panel off and on. If I spin up the F14 a bit more, it seems to make a somewhat annoying noise.
Bottom intake should help GPU. Also raising case up on taller feet or on open center caster base helps airflow to bottom vents.

Quote: Originally Posted by hazium233 View Post
I was thinking of at the least replacing the GP12s with something better, perhaps going with at least one Phanteks F140MP, and maybe pulling the shroud and getting a decent 120mm fan to go at the bottom of the front. Was looking for opinions on whether or not I should just get 2x140MP and toss the F14, or if it that fan might be more effective moved to the top of the front where it is just blowing at the ram and CPU. Either way ending up with an all intake configuration with 2x140mm and 1x120mm along the front. Maybe another 120mm rear, I don't know. I have 2 hard disks in the shroud, so intake from the floor/bottom isn't an option.
2x PH-F140MP in front and possible 1x 120mm in bottom

Quote: Originally Posted by hazium233 View Post
I saw that someone in the Fractal case thread had installed a Thermalright 147A at the bottom-front location in his Meshify C. I think that setup had a 140mm at the top-front, a 120mm in the middle-front, and then the 147A.

Thoughts? Is the proximity of the GPU to the front fans a problem that better fans won't overcome? If I could drop temperatures and noise with the fans it may be worth it even though I only paid $60 for this case new, and it looks like I could match that in fans if I am not careful. I would probably be getting them from Amazon, the F140MP looks to be one of the better ones for the money on there.
Problem is TY-147A is 140x153mm with 120mm fan mount spacing (105mm hole spacing) so won't fit in all fan openings.



Quote: Originally Posted by hazium233 View Post
On Amazon prices look like this (shipped):

Phanteks PH F140MP - $15
Noctua P14 Redux 1500 - $15
TY147A (round) - $18
beQuiet SW3 High Speed - $23
TY147A SQ - $29 (shipped from the UK)

edit:

ebay seems to have some interesting listings.

TY147A (round) - $11
SW3 High Speed - $12.68 / fan for 2.

These are supposedly new open box, but no accessories. I have a bit of skepticism for ebay items listed as open box and new, but maybe it is worth taking a chance on those SW3s.
As deepor posted, both PWM and variable voltage are good. Just make sure your motherboard can speed control whichever you get.
12-09-2019 02:45 AM
deepor @hazium233 :

There is a 4-pin PWM and also a 3-pin version of the SW3-HS, so make sure you are not by mistake buying a 3-pin if you really want 4-pin.
12-08-2019 06:36 PM
hazium233 I have read a fair amount of this thread, and done some searches, but I was hoping to get a couple opinions on options for improving my Meshify C. I have a bit of an unorthodox grab bag setup now with an Arctic F14 right above the PSU shroud at the front, one of the GP12's above it, and the other original GP12 as a rear exhaust.

I currently have a 2060 Strix in the case, and it is a long card ~300mm, and so it sits about 1.5cm or less from the rear of the front intake 140mm. When I bought the case earlier in the year, I only had an EVGA 1060 SC, and at the time I didn't think I would end up owning an absurd length card, but I got a deal and here we are. I removed rear PCIe slots, although I have to run a WIFI card in one of the slots so it isn't completely unobstructed back there.

I am a bit airflow limited to the GPU, not that this is surprising based on the size of the case, reviews, and some others' experiences with it. For an example, in Superposition, I have ~2-3C difference between glass panel off and on. If I spin up the F14 a bit more, it seems to make a somewhat annoying noise.

I was thinking of at the least replacing the GP12s with something better, perhaps going with at least one Phanteks F140MP, and maybe pulling the shroud and getting a decent 120mm fan to go at the bottom of the front. Was looking for opinions on whether or not I should just get 2x140MP and toss the F14, or if it that fan might be more effective moved to the top of the front where it is just blowing at the ram and CPU. Either way ending up with an all intake configuration with 2x140mm and 1x120mm along the front. Maybe another 120mm rear, I don't know. I have 2 hard disks in the shroud, so intake from the floor/bottom isn't an option.

I saw that someone in the Fractal case thread had installed a Thermalright 147A at the bottom-front location in his Meshify C. I think that setup had a 140mm at the top-front, a 120mm in the middle-front, and then the 147A.

Thoughts? Is the proximity of the GPU to the front fans a problem that better fans won't overcome? If I could drop temperatures and noise with the fans it may be worth it even though I only paid $60 for this case new, and it looks like I could match that in fans if I am not careful. I would probably be getting them from Amazon, the F140MP looks to be one of the better ones for the money on there.

On Amazon prices look like this (shipped):

Phanteks PH F140MP - $15
Noctua P14 Redux 1500 - $15
TY147A (round) - $18
beQuiet SW3 High Speed - $23
TY147A SQ - $29 (shipped from the UK)

edit:

ebay seems to have some interesting listings.

TY147A (round) - $11
SW3 High Speed - $12.68 / fan for 2.

These are supposedly new open box, but no accessories. I have a bit of skepticism for ebay items listed as open box and new, but maybe it is worth taking a chance on those SW3s.
11-27-2019 03:37 PM
JackCY You could run that thing probably passive since it's just some low power APU or something.

I would start to worry when your CPU runs 150W+ with a 250W+ GPU.
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