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05-22-2019 06:31 AM
doyll Indeed! Situations we are extremely unlikey to ever be using our meters in our computer .. only possible if testing mains power to PSU.
05-22-2019 01:32 AM
Gilles3000
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
I have a very expensive Fluke and a couple sub $10 ones I've used for many years. Fluke is in eletronics toolbox and cheap-o's are in mechanic and camper. I actually use the cheap-o's more than Fluke and in over 50 years of use I've only smoked one cheap-o .. and that was me being stupid trying to sort taillights in driving rain.
the way I destroyed my cheapo's is being being a numpty and trying to check mains voltage while the meter was still on continuity testing...

In my defense that happened both times after a long time of painfully sorting out the nightmare that is our house wiring.
05-20-2019 04:50 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by Gilles3000 View Post
Tue most of the cheap meters are fine as long as you're not doing high voltage/high current/very low current applications.

Only downside i've noticed with the cheapo's is that the fuses are mostly just for show and if you do make a mistake on anything like mains voltage, your meter is toast.

But if you want to go for an entry level quality meter, I'd suggest the Chinese market Fluke meters, (Like the 15B Plus) they're really affordable for a Fluke, but still expensive enough to be a bit of a commitment (~€70).
I have a very expensive Fluke and a couple sub $10 ones I've used for many years. Fluke is in eletronics toolbox and cheap-o's are in mechanic and camper. I actually use the cheap-o's more than Fluke and in over 50 years of use I've only smoked one cheap-o .. and that was me being stupid trying to sort taillights in driving rain.
05-20-2019 03:13 AM
Gilles3000
Quote: Originally Posted by Shenhua View Post
Any suggestion for a very basic and cheap model. I'm really comfortable buying from AliExpress and Amazon, however im in Europe.
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
I don't think it makes much difference. I've never used one that didn't do the job.

Maybe something like this one:
https://www.amazon.fr/KOBWA-Multim%C.../dp/B073FJ4DL3
Tue most of the cheap meters are fine as long as you're not doing high voltage/high current/very low current applications.

Only downside i've noticed with the cheapo's is that the fuses are mostly just for show and if you do make a mistake on anything like mains voltage, your meter is toast.

But if you want to go for an entry level quality meter, I'd suggest the Chinese market Fluke meters, (Like the 15B Plus) they're really affordable for a Fluke, but still expensive enough to be a bit of a commitment (~€70).
05-19-2019 06:36 AM
Shenhua I've done some testing today, with the fans connected elsewhere, and the temps are ****. Idk *** i did wrong but at 2k rpm the GPU was staying at 78°C.

Ppl get 10°C improvements, i get 10°C decay in temps. I'm thinking to give up, im so fking tired of fixing things and troubleshooting.... I'll try again when i get a new board and i can control them in real time, and do some testing..... but I'm very disappointed.

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05-18-2019 01:41 PM
Shenhua
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
I don't think it makes much difference. I've never used one that didn't do the job.

Maybe something like this one:
https://www.amazon.fr/KOBWA-Multim%C...l&sr=8-1-spell
Got a xl830l. Seems to be very common everywhere.

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05-18-2019 04:45 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by Shenhua View Post
Any suggestion for a very basic and cheap model. I'm really comfortable buying from AliExpress and Amazon, however im in Europe.

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I don't think it makes much difference. I've never used one that didn't do the job.

Maybe something like this one:
https://www.amazon.fr/KOBWA-Multim%C...l&sr=8-1-spell
05-17-2019 10:18 PM
Shenhua
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
You can buy a basic VOM for less than a tenner. Once you own and use one you probably won't be able to live without one. At least I couldn't.
Any suggestion for a very basic and cheap model. I'm really comfortable buying from AliExpress and Amazon, however im in Europe.

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05-17-2019 08:28 AM
Mungojerrie
Quote: Originally Posted by Shenhua View Post
NOX (spanish brand) literally copied identically the case. While it might look like a decent case it completely sucks for GPU cooling.

The GPU fills in the second and third slot, because of the mobo placement and big graphic cards have little space between them and the PSU shroud, just like mATX cases, despite the case being 50x48cm.
The case indeed does look very similar. But in Aero 800 there's plenty of space between a videocard and a PSU shroud, at lest if the videocard is installed in the top PCIe x16 slot. I've had no troubles at all - I've run Radeon R9 270X, GTX 1060 and GTX 1080 Ti in in with no problems at all. Maybe there are some differences in the front mesh and/or filter configuration or maybe the fans are to blame. My former 2x Noctua NF-P14F Redux had no trouble feeding the GPU and a little bit to the CPU, but the CPU cooler seemed to draw a lot of fresh air through the upper dust filter.
But my main suspicion is that he has his videocard installed in a lower PCIe X16 or x8 slot.

Quote: Originally Posted by DiceAir View Post
I removed my pci-e covers and for me it improved gpu cooling a bit by 5C or more for me so don't be scared to remove it.
Yeah, it makes sense but it just... i dunno, feels wrong. I woudl certainly do it if GPU temps were bad, but they aren't
05-16-2019 03:52 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by Shenhua View Post
I don't have a VOM, and i have no idea how could i do that test without removing the connectors.

However i watched some mods. And i think black is ground, yellow is 12v, green is RPM and blue pwm, but idk what's the red for.....

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You can buy a basic VOM for less than a tenner. Once you own and use one you probably won't be able to live without one. At least I couldn't.
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