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06-17-2019 01:43 PM
diggiddi
Quote: Originally Posted by Mister Floppy View Post
@generaleramon:


With mod v3, I got a black screen when starting a video game (Just Cause 4), I attached the GPU-Z log file, the crash happened about 16:38:34



The lesson I learned: Never ever again a GPU from AMD :-(
The problem is most likely with manufacturer Asus and not necessarily AMD, I have All AMD cards 8 total, SAPPHIRE hd7950, 2 290X lightnings, 2 fury nitro's , 2 RX 580 Nitro, RX580 armor II No issues at all, I had to RMA a fury nitro but that's it
Generally AMD cards tho you need to tweak to get best performance from them
06-17-2019 07:57 AM
Mister Floppy Well... also with generaleramons newest BIOS, in the end I got a black screen by starting a simple video stream :-(


Quote: Originally Posted by xtremefunky View Post
I really dont want you to do that. But for me it was the only solution to handle the BS.
Everything else like on your card didnt worked.
I know the following solution is maybe not the best, but its oviously better than a useless blackscreening card.
Flash PT1 or PT3 Bios. Cant remember which of them had no Vdroop. Take the PT wich has Vdrop.
And you will have some nice days with your card. (only if you have a reference card, works maybe on some
customs... but no warranty for that)

This suggestion sounds interesting, but I'm not sure if I should take the risk to brick the GPU, because after searching for "PT1" and "PT3" with google, I only found threads which all have "290" in their title - although, in my case we are talking about a "390X" card! I've read that there are some modded BIOS in the wild coming from a "390" GPU to be flashed on a "290" GPU, but is it actually possible vice versa, too?


And regarding "better do not try it with a custom card", I do think that the ASUS STRIX R9 390X DirectCU III OC is not coming directly from the manufacturer, but from a "third party" company, so it's not to be considered as a reference card, am I right?


Can anyone resolve my doubts?
06-15-2019 11:08 AM
xtremefunky I really dont want you to do that. But for me it was the only solution to handle the BS.
Everything else like on your card didnt worked.
I know the following solution is maybe not the best, but its oviously better than a useless blackscreening card.
Flash PT1 or PT3 Bios. Cant remember which of them had no Vdroop. Take the PT wich has Vdrop.
And you will have some nice days with your card. (only if you have a reference card, works maybe on some
customs... but no warranty for that)
06-15-2019 02:53 AM
Mister Floppy
R9 390 Strix

Quote: Originally Posted by kithylin View Post
It could just be the card overheating some how... All video cards, AMD or Nvidia will drop monitor signal, black screen, and throw fans at 100% until you hard turn the computer off if they overheat too far. It's a failsafe mode typically. Unless I'm misunderstanding, I think in one post you said it was hitting 93c. AMD cards are rated for up to 95c typically but.. anything in the 85~90c range is close to the "emergency thermal black screen" mode.

The ASUS R9 390X Strix is "famous" for its high temperatures, and unfortunately has a bad hardware design regarding cooling :-( I've watched a youtube video where some experienced guys did a hardware mod to reduce the temperatures a little, in the end they achieved a maximum temperature of 87c. For anyone interested, here's the link (german):


With generaleramons newest modded BIOS I now have a maxium temperature of 89c playing "Just Cause 4" on highest settings for almost 6 hours.



In my case, the black screens regularly DON'T occur when the GPU is running at high temperatures, but when it's dealing with simple tasks, like playing a video stream. I've had black screens after seconds I powered on the PC and started a video stream (not even in HD)!


However, so far with generaleramons newest BIOS mod I didn't have a black screen in "2D" affairs, and I'm hoping this will not change. I will report back - fingers crossed
06-14-2019 12:56 PM
kithylin
Quote: Originally Posted by Mister Floppy View Post
I will try generaleramons newest mod and report back. Stay tuned :-)
It could just be the card overheating some how... All video cards, AMD or Nvidia will drop monitor signal, black screen, and throw fans at 100% until you hard turn the computer off if they overheat too far. It's a failsafe mode typically. Unless I'm misunderstanding, I think in one post you said it was hitting 93c. AMD cards are rated for up to 95c typically but.. anything in the 85~90c range is close to the "emergency thermal black screen" mode.
06-14-2019 08:26 AM
Mister Floppy
Quote: Originally Posted by Talon720 View Post
Have you tried the other outputs? Do the 390x bios your using have the lower memory timings?
Quote: Originally Posted by generaleramon View Post
do you have another PSU/PC to the card with? A friend of mine had a lot of stability problems with his 390X and it was the PSU, that might explain the fact that you are solving the problem by setting the Power Target to -50%

v4, TDP Max, Power Limit and TDC Limit all set to 50% in the Bios. VDDCI back to 1000mv, VRM Frequency back to stock. GPU Clock 2 back to stock, tuned the fan profile
Quote: Originally Posted by kithylin View Post
I think we might need some more information here. What resolution and refresh rate are you running on your screen? It could just be a problem of a bad/defective monitor cable causing your monitor to lose signal and not the card it's self or the overclock.

First at all: Thank you for your help and suggestions, guys!



The resolution is 1920x1080 and the refresh rate 60 Hz.


But I don't think it's just a matter of the monitor loosing signal, because the black screens are from that kind which are freezing the whole system, I even can't ping it from another PC, only way to shut it down is by holding the Power Button down for several seconds...


Unfortunately, I don't have a spare PSU/PC to test the GPU with.


I will try generaleramons newest mod and report back. Stay tuned :-)
06-13-2019 12:30 PM
kithylin
Quote: Originally Posted by Mister Floppy View Post
@generaleramon:


With mod v3, I got a black screen when starting a video game (Just Cause 4), I attached the GPU-Z log file, the crash happened about 16:38:34



The lesson I learned: Never ever again a GPU from AMD :-(
Nvidia can and will have black screen problems too, but usually for nvidia it only happens if we overheat an nvidia card to 90+ C.
I think we might need some more information here. What resolution and refresh rate are you running on your screen? It could just be a problem of a bad/defective monitor cable causing your monitor to lose signal and not the card it's self or the overclock.
06-12-2019 09:43 PM
generaleramon
Quote: Originally Posted by Mister Floppy View Post
@generaleramon:


With mod v3, I got a black screen when starting a video game (Just Cause 4), I attached the GPU-Z log file, the crash happened about 16:38:34



The lesson I learned: Never ever again a GPU from AMD :-(
i have a ton of AMD gpus, all works fine, is just the 2XX-3XX series that is famous for the Black Screen issue.
I'm looking at the log: 93 degrees GPU temp! but also: the 12V voltage goes as low as 11.63v, do you have another PSU/PC to the card with? A friend of mine had a lot of stability problems with his 390X and it was the PSU, that might explain the fact that you are solving the problem by setting the Power Target to -50%

v4, TDP Max, Power Limit and TDC Limit all set to 50% in the Bios. VDDCI back to 1000mv, VRM Frequency back to stock. GPU Clock 2 back to stock, tuned the fan profile
06-12-2019 12:16 PM
Talon720
Quote: Originally Posted by Mister Floppy View Post
Resolution: 1920x1080
Connection: DVI
Oh the only time I had issues with dvi was benchmarking at higher clocks and voltage. Have you tried the other outputs? Do the 390x bios your using have the lower memory timings? Btw Nvidia get black screen issues too
06-12-2019 10:20 AM
Mister Floppy
Quote: Originally Posted by Talon720 View Post
@Mister Floppy
I don't know what resolution you use but I had tons of black screen issues I tried all the different fixes that are around well except the 1.8v rail volt mod. Over DisplayPort not 1 of my 3 gpu's will consistently run at 1440p or higher at 60-144hz without eventually black screening. hdmi though is fine to bad my monitor doesn't have hdmi freesync

Resolution: 1920x1080
Connection: DVI
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