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09-09-2015 09:36 AM
kgtuning Being passionate about something is what makes life great!
09-09-2015 09:19 AM
alpenwasser
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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

I guess I'm just in search of my "ideal" distro. We will see what happens.

Oh, I know that pain. I was on Ubuntu from 2007 until spring 2011, when they brought out Unity. I wasn't
inherently as averse to their ideas as many others seemed to be, but at that point it was just too buggy and
immature for me to use, so I started looking around for alternatives, and eventually settled on Arch.

But as said, if you want to find something with which you'll be truly happy there aren't really any shortcuts
since it's a lot about personal preference, not just technological matters, and you can't really make an informed
decision on that except by just trying things out until you find something which suits you.

Best of luck then! thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post


Those 560's in push makes sense. You give me horrible ideas... Ha-ha

"alpenwasser - bringing horrible ideas to a mind near you since the alpen have been wassering." Muhahahaha! devil.gif

But yeah, I do rather like those dual 560s in the basement. Makes me feel like I'm actually using
the space in this case (well, the SR-2's monstrous dimensions help with that too). I'm actually
pretty happy with the space usage in the build overall. It's not super stuffed, but I also never felt
like I needed to add "filling" material just so that the case won't look empty (for example those
two reservoirs which we so often see in SMA8 builds, with which I find no fault, but as we discussed
elsewhere if I remember right they are a pretty common sight these days).
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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post


I appreciate you offering to help with Linux.

No problem, as you can probably tell I am rather passionate about the subject. biggrin.gif
09-09-2015 08:58 AM
kgtuning
Quote:
Originally Posted by alpenwasser View Post

Yeah, making that jump is not always as easy as it might seem. I've been able to do it because I've
had the time and inclination to do all the work required, but it does require some effort. Putting Arch
in a VM sounds like a pretty reasonable approach, especially if you're not that experienced with it.

Oh and if you run into trouble, feel free to ask. I can't promise I'll be able to help, but I have a few
years of Arch under my belt, so hopefully I won't be completely useless. biggrin.gif
Just push. I didn't really think it made much sense to go P/P with such a low-density radiator with
such a thin core, and according to the xtremerigs review, that seems to be about right. For me, the
added cost wasn't really worth the comparatively small performance gain.

Space between them is ~105 mm or so (bit tricky to measure accurately with everything bolted
together). So in theory, I could mount a second PSU between those radiators. It'd basically just
be like running the PSU in a bit of a hotbox (temperature inside the bottom compartment is about
42 C at the moment with the fans at ~650 rpm), so as long as I don't overdo it with the load and pick
a decent unit it would still work. Though it's not exactly what I'd call an ideal solution I will admit. biggrin.gif

I guess I'm just in search of my "ideal" distro. We will see what happens.

Those 560's in push makes sense. You give me horrible ideas... Ha-ha

I appreciate you offering to help with Linux.
09-09-2015 08:43 AM
alpenwasser
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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

I go through phases... Solely Windows then randomly I'll pick up a distro a few times a year. My "gaming" rig stays on Windows but my laptop could have Linux or windows, currently running W10. But it seems I have that itch again. Ha-ha already downloaded Arch, maybe I'll just run it in a VM. It may sound funny but I want to like Linux so much but just haven't been able to make that jump.

Yeah, making that jump is not always as easy as it might seem. I've been able to do it because I've
had the time and inclination to do all the work required, but it does require some effort. Putting Arch
in a VM sounds like a pretty reasonable approach, especially if you're not that experienced with it.

Oh and if you run into trouble, feel free to ask. I can't promise I'll be able to help, but I have a few
years of Arch under my belt, so hopefully I won't be completely useless. biggrin.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

Anyways, two 560's and a 480... That's just awesome. So how much space do you have between the lower radiators? 60mm or so I'm guessing. But I'm assuming both are in push/pull.

Just push. I didn't really think it made much sense to go P/P with such a low-density radiator with
such a thin core, and according to the xtremerigs review, that seems to be about right. For me, the
added cost wasn't really worth the comparatively small performance gain.

Space between them is ~105 mm or so (bit tricky to measure accurately with everything bolted
together). So in theory, I could mount a second PSU between those radiators. It'd basically just
be like running the PSU in a bit of a hotbox (temperature inside the bottom compartment is about
42 C at the moment with the fans at ~650 rpm), so as long as I don't overdo it with the load and pick
a decent unit it would still work. Though it's not exactly what I'd call an ideal solution I will admit. biggrin.gif
09-09-2015 08:15 AM
kgtuning
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Originally Posted by alpenwasser View Post

I've been using Linux almost exclusively since about 2007~2008 or so, and am very happy with it,
and Windows just isn't really for me anymore, but yeah, I get that for most people it's probably the
other way around.

But I don't really game anymore (well, I have a PS3, but last time I turned that on was like two years
ago or so), which makes abstaining from Windows a whole lot easier though.

Plus, I know many people say that "Linux is easy if you choose the right distro" or something like
that, but honestly, I have invested a lot of time over the years into reading documentation and stuff
like that. I'm not necessarily talking about troubleshooting, just reading up on how to get something
done. And not everyone might have the time for that, or the desire, or both.
Haha, yup, I do indeed. They're HWLabs SR-1s. So, 55.9 mm thick according to HWLabs, though
only a 33 mm core according to xtremerigs' review. Since I'm running my fans at ~450~650 rpm
they seemed like the natural choice at the time of purchase (which was back in 2013).

Reason I have the Alphacool in the roof is that the HWLabs would have cost me one more PCIe
slot, and I wanted to keep one open in case I decided to install a RAID controller or something
like that. The XT45 performed very well at low fan speeds in Martin's review, so I went with that.
I've thought about replacing the roof rad with something sexier like an XSPC or an EKWB, but
so far the urge hasn't been strong enough justify spending the money. biggrin.gif


EDIT: I'm still working on temp measurements and such, but as a preliminary note: Having dual
560s and a 480... not as ridiculous as one might think when running the fans as low as I do.

I go through phases... Solely Windows then randomly I'll pick up a distro a few times a year. My "gaming" rig stays on Windows but my laptop could have Linux or windows, currently running W10. But it seems I have that itch again. Ha-ha already downloaded Arch, maybe I'll just run it in a VM. It may sound funny but I want to like Linux so much but just haven't been able to make that jump. Anyways, two 560's and a 480... That's just awesome. So how much space do you have between the lower radiators? 60mm or so I'm guessing. But I'm assuming both are in push/pull.
09-09-2015 07:33 AM
alpenwasser
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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

Thank you for the input. I was just curious. I was using Mint for a while. I like it but I'm a windows person. Every once in a while I tinker around with it. I'd love to fully jump into Linux just can't seem to get there.

I've been using Linux almost exclusively since about 2007~2008 or so, and am very happy with it,
and Windows just isn't really for me anymore, but yeah, I get that for most people it's probably the
other way around.

But I don't really game anymore (well, I have a PS3, but last time I turned that on was like two years
ago or so), which makes abstaining from Windows a whole lot easier though.

Plus, I know many people say that "Linux is easy if you choose the right distro" or something like
that, but honestly, I have invested a lot of time over the years into reading documentation and stuff
like that. I'm not necessarily talking about troubleshooting, just reading up on how to get something
done. And not everyone might have the time for that, or the desire, or both.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

Edit... So yeah I just noticed you have two 560's in the bottom. Wow! Both 45mm thick?

Haha, yup, I do indeed. They're HWLabs SR-1s. So, 55.9 mm thick according to HWLabs, though
only a 33 mm core according to xtremerigs' review. Since I'm running my fans at ~450~650 rpm
they seemed like the natural choice at the time of purchase (which was back in 2013).

Reason I have the Alphacool in the roof is that the HWLabs would have cost me one more PCIe
slot, and I wanted to keep one open in case I decided to install a RAID controller or something
like that. The XT45 performed very well at low fan speeds in Martin's review, so I went with that.
I've thought about replacing the roof rad with something sexier like an XSPC or an EKWB, but
so far the urge hasn't been strong enough justify spending the money. biggrin.gif


EDIT: I'm still working on temp measurements and such, but as a preliminary note: Having dual
560s and a 480... not as ridiculous as one might think when running the fans as low as I do.
09-08-2015 10:24 AM
kgtuning Thank you for the input. I was just curious. I was using Mint for a while. I like it but I'm a windows person. Every once in a while I tinker around with it. I'd love to fully jump into Linux just can't seem to get there.

Edit... So yeah I just noticed you have two 560's in the bottom. Wow! Both 45mm thick?
09-08-2015 07:00 AM
alpenwasser
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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

A comment from yesterday... I see you have Arch distro... Out of all current linux distros which would you recommend?

Hm, I suppose that would depend on the target user. For somebody who's not quite as into the
command line as I am, I think Mint might be worth a look. I've also heard that Ubuntu has mostly
fixed the quirks and such in their Unity UI and that it's usable again, so that might also be worth
exploring too, though I haven't personally tried it in quite a while (I switched from Ubuntu to Arch
in 2011 when Ubuntu introduced Unity and it was still quite immature).

If you're looking for something which doesn't specifically cater to command-line averse folks,
I'd recommend checking out Slackware, Debian or Arch. Friend of mine has been using Debian
for years and is very happy with it, especially on his servers.

Gentoo is also pretty nice if you want to delve into the deep end of the pool. I have a buddy in
school who uses it as his daily driver on his laptop, seems quite happy with it. I last used it
quite a few years ago. Definitely a cool experience, but a bit too much work for my tastes.

In the end, what distro you choose will probably depend quite a lot on personal preferences,
not merely whether a distro is good from a technical POV. For me, Arch fits my personal preferences
very well, but I get that it might not be for everyone. I like the package manager, I like that it has
a very minimal base install on top of which you can then make your setup, I like the rolling
release model, I like that I don't need to fiddle with GUI tools for configuring most of my system
and can do that from the command line. But this can be completely different for somebody else,
and that's perfectly fine in my book.

It also has a very good wiki, and the userbase is large enough that you're usually not the first
and only person to run into an issue and can find some help to resolve your problem when you
have one (this is also true for many other distros of course). The user repository is also pretty
nice. Sometimes people seem a bit scared of the bleeding edge and all that, but honestly, in
my four and a half years of using Arch, I've had one serious case of breakage due to a system
upgrade (Gnome-related), that's it.

Anyway, I'll stop rambling now, feel free to ask more if need be. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by billyboy8888 View Post

I think I've read that you are going to use this system mostly for BOINC? As in donating horsepower to research or actually for your own stuff?

Donating for research. These are my projects and credits at the moment:

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09-07-2015 08:54 PM
billyboy8888 I think I've read that you are going to use this system mostly for BOINC? As in donating horsepower to research or actually for your own stuff?
09-07-2015 06:03 PM
kgtuning A comment from yesterday... I see you have Arch distro... Out of all current linux distros which would you recommend?
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