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04-25-2020 08:39 AM
JustinThyme Another’s thing is if you are pushing out you don’t need the filters. Everywhere that the flow is outbound I have pulled the filters. Same thing up top. Only flow in I have in the bottom. I also have the back cover off where you can put another rad off with that filter installed. Either way I don’t sweat idle. All the fans are silent or close to it. It’s what’s going on loaded that I look at. My liquid temps with a pair of 2080Tis and 9940X stay between 27c to 30C with 24C measured at the bottom inlet before the rad. Every now and. Then when I’m pushing the crap out of it with no airflow in the room the liquid may reach 31C. During summer months I do great. I put a window AC in that half the flow goes right into the back cover Inlet.
04-24-2020 10:10 PM
sultanofswing
Quote: Originally Posted by JustinThyme View Post
You have the fans on the outside? That will definitely do it. No room for air to pass with them outside. I tried that myself and went with a slim 360 up front with the fans inside pushing out.
LOL no the fans are not on the outside.
I have the 480 up front with fans in push/pull but no fans on the outside.
04-24-2020 09:50 PM
JustinThyme
Quote: Originally Posted by sultanofswing View Post
I think if I keep this case I may change some things around.
I kind of want to swap all the 360's to 420's not sure.

I'm going to do some testing tomorrow with the fans but it's very hard to do as my room heats up more during the day so getting accurate results is hard to do.

As of right now I am running the case with the front Panel off as that had dropped the idle water temp by .8c vs having it on.
You have the fans on the outside? That will definitely do it. No room for air to pass with them outside. I tried that myself and went with a slim 360 up front with the fans inside pushing out.
04-24-2020 08:30 PM
sultanofswing
Quote: Originally Posted by JustinThyme View Post
30C max is about where I reside. Bottom in top out and front out. 140mm fan in the back out as well.
I think if I keep this case I may change some things around.
I kind of want to swap all the 360's to 420's not sure.

I'm going to do some testing tomorrow with the fans but it's very hard to do as my room heats up more during the day so getting accurate results is hard to do.

As of right now I am running the case with the front Panel off as that had dropped the idle water temp by .8c vs having it on.
04-24-2020 08:21 PM
JustinThyme
Quote: Originally Posted by sultanofswing View Post
I already know the outcome of it. I'm just testing things here at idle because that is the only place I saw the Enthoo Elite running hotter than my 0-11XL.

Both cases under full load still only saw a max of 30c water temp.
30C max is about where I reside. Bottom in top out and front out. 140mm fan in the back out as well.
04-24-2020 06:10 PM
sultanofswing
Quote: Originally Posted by JustinThyme View Post
Load it down and see what you get.

I already know the outcome of it. I'm just testing things here at idle because that is the only place I saw the Enthoo Elite running hotter than my 0-11XL.

Both cases under full load still only saw a max of 30c water temp.
04-24-2020 06:06 PM
JustinThyme
Quote: Originally Posted by sultanofswing View Post
Everything is on water.

So check this out. The temp difference between open and closed while not crazy changes in a 5 second time period.
Side door Closed


Side Door Open


@doyll check that out, no I don't have them backwards either.
Load it down and see what you get.
04-24-2020 05:42 PM
sultanofswing
Quote: Originally Posted by JustinThyme View Post
Im going in at the bottom with a 480x60 rad. Out at the top with a 420 rad and out at the front with a 360x30 rad and out on the rear with a single 140mm fan. All going in has never given me good results in any case. Cant dump all that air in with no place for it to go but out the back. though the small holes. I can tell you right from the get go that isnt going to work for crap. Also one HUGE thing that I didnt see or maybe did, are you running air cooled or liquid cooled GPU/s? Air cooled in that case will make your loop temp go up, two will make it ridiculous even though its not even in the loop from dumping all that hot air in the case then it going across the rads be in in or out. I had to wait a while on my GPU blocks as no one was making them. That entire time the door was off to keep my liquid temp down or it would go up on GPU loads with no CPU load even though the cards were not in the loop. Thats something else to try to see if you have your air balance right. If you pull the door and temps drop, its not right.
Everything is on water.

So check this out. The temp difference between open and closed while not crazy changes in a 5 second time period.
Side door Closed


Side Door Open


@doyll check that out, no I don't have them backwards either.
04-16-2020 04:04 PM
JustinThyme Im going in at the bottom with a 480x60 rad. Out at the top with a 420 rad and out at the front with a 360x30 rad and out on the rear with a single 140mm fan. All going in has never given me good results in any case. Cant dump all that air in with no place for it to go but out the back. though the small holes. I can tell you right from the get go that isnt going to work for crap. Also one HUGE thing that I didnt see or maybe did, are you running air cooled or liquid cooled GPU/s? Air cooled in that case will make your loop temp go up, two will make it ridiculous even though its not even in the loop from dumping all that hot air in the case then it going across the rads be in in or out. I had to wait a while on my GPU blocks as no one was making them. That entire time the door was off to keep my liquid temp down or it would go up on GPU loads with no CPU load even though the cards were not in the loop. Thats something else to try to see if you have your air balance right. If you pull the door and temps drop, its not right.
04-16-2020 07:59 AM
sultanofswing
Quote: Originally Posted by JustinThyme View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by sultanofswing View Post
@doyll
Ok so I was pretty aggravated this morning by your reply as it is making me out to look like I don't know what the hell I am doing.

Long story short. I run my CPU with all power saving features enabled, that means at idle the CPU will downclock and voltage will reduce also.

The reason for the CPU clocks speed difference is because of that. That speed that you saw reported from the Elite screen shot was the CPU reacting to me taking a screenshot so it spiked to 5094mhz for a millisecond, No where near enough time for it to heat up the water.

Also the power usage differences. The power usage will show different between the 2 because the Elite is running hotter water temps.
The figure you see for "total power usage" is based of a Temp sensor in the GPU and a temp sensor in the Reservoir plus the flow sensor and that gives the Total power output.

At any rate I can sit here and let this system idle all day long not touching it and the water temp runs hotter than the 0-11 XL.

I've done enough testing here that I know between the 2 cases if I don't change anything as far as the components and how they are ran the Elite runs hotter. It's gotten me to the point that I frankly just want to get rid of it.

I have 2 more tests that I am about to do this weekend but tearing this whole loop down (3 times in the past 2 week) with all the rads,hardtubes and the triple pumps is getting old and I am getting to the point where I just want to leave it alone.

Let me know when you want to dump it. I’️ll buy up another. Love mine. Liquid temps have never seen 31C as they top out under heavy load with a 9940X and two 2080TIs at 30C. It’️s certainly not due to a limited selection of rad space or options. What rads do you have and where and what direction is the air flow. The most common mistake I see is feeding hot air through another rad from what was dissipated from another or fans fighting each other. Starving for air. My idle temp running endlessly with no or light load sits about 2C about ambient.
360 in the bottom chamber
480 in the front
360 in the top

No radiators feeding hot air to another radiator.
I do have all fans as intake as in my experience having them all as intake always gave me the lowest water temps.

I may have figured something out last night. Going to test tonight after work and report back.
If it fixes it I’m gonna laugh at it.
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