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04-06-2020 11:03 AM
ObscureScience I didn't mean to imply you were lying. I'm just so used to playing with a gpu bottleneck that memory changes make little difference for me.
I can see it having benefit at 1080p though for sure.
04-05-2020 06:46 AM
rares495
Quote: Originally Posted by ObscureScience View Post
That's quite a claim. Was this in a particularly memory intensive game? Can you prove it?
3400 14-17-19 bad secondary/tertiary timings -> 3800 14-15-13 really tight everything

Subnautica: Below Zero +10 fps

GTA V/Online: +15 fps

Can't prove it because my old memory kit is gone but what would I gain from lying?
04-05-2020 06:34 AM
ObscureScience
Quote: Originally Posted by rares495 View Post
If you're only gaming, you should just stop right here. There isn't much benefit going over 3000-3200mhz for Ryzen 1000/2000.

It's worth it for Ryzen 3000, though. After swapping my 2600 with the 3700X I OC'd my 3000C15 kit to 3400C14 and that also meant a 200mhz higher FCLK => +5-10 fps. I then bought this amazing B-die kit and pushed even more to 3800C14 & +200mhz FCLK. Again saw +10-15 fps. Definitely worth the $180 I spent on the new memory.
That's quite a claim. Was this in a particularly memory intensive game? Can you prove it?
04-02-2020 06:06 AM
strumf666 Just got my 3800x and TridentZ Neo 2x16 3600c16 and it works out of the box by setting DOCP in bios; pretty pleased
03-30-2020 10:13 AM
Filters83
Quote: Originally Posted by psychonaut89 View Post
That's a great result. I always thought that prime x370-pro (as most of the other x370 boards) actually is a T-Topology board?
it is infact

https://www.asus.com/sg/News/T8pLN0RTbeyPcfzc

read here ^^
Only starting from x470 they are mostly Daisy chain topoligy making some exception for some board that have only 2 dimm slot
03-29-2020 10:23 AM
psychonaut89 That's a great result. I always thought that prime x370-pro (as most of the other x370 boards) actually is a T-Topology board?
03-29-2020 09:43 AM
MerlinsBeard Not gaming actually, I use it for 3D Rendering but I can still see the difference in benchmarks.
I guess I will settle on what I have memory-wise and push my CPU clocks a bit more. I'm on a conservative 24/7 O.C. of 3.8GHz and its stable which is more importantthan having a super high overclock.
Side note: Is it possible to disable the SpreadSpectrum on the 5220 bios with a non Zen2 CPU. I used a cmo. profile on the 4202 but they say it won't work on older CPU's with the new BIOS.
I really hate seing the not rounded clocks in HW Monitor.

Quote: Originally Posted by rares495 View Post
It's worth it for Ryzen 3000, though. After swapping my 2600 with the 3700X I OC'd my 3000C15 kit to 3400C14 and that also meant a 200mhz higher FCLK => +5-10 fps. I then bought this amazing B-die kit and pushed even more to 3800C14 & +200mhz FCLK. Again saw +10-15 fps. Definitely worth the $180 I spent on the new memory.
03-29-2020 08:51 AM
rares495
Quote: Originally Posted by MerlinsBeard View Post
For reference I'm using a Trident Z set of 3000MHz, 4x16GB CL14, dual rank memory.
Does this mean I should stop tinkering for higher clocks?
My intention is to optimize mem on my Prime x370-Pro not ready to swap the MB yet. I could try and push the timings a bit more in this case and that's that. I'm going to upgrade my CPU before swapping the board, possibly with a 3900x or 3950X after the new series come out.
Peace ✌️
If you're only gaming, you should just stop right here. There isn't much benefit going over 3000-3200mhz for Ryzen 1000/2000.

It's worth it for Ryzen 3000, though. After swapping my 2600 with the 3700X I OC'd my 3000C15 kit to 3400C14 and that also meant a 200mhz higher FCLK => +5-10 fps. I then bought this amazing B-die kit and pushed even more to 3800C14 & +200mhz FCLK. Again saw +10-15 fps. Definitely worth the $180 I spent on the new memory.
03-29-2020 08:37 AM
MerlinsBeard For reference I'm using a Trident Z set of 3000MHz, 4x16GB CL14, dual rank memory.
Does this mean I should stop tinkering for higher clocks?
My intention is to optimize mem on my Prime x370-Pro not ready to swap the MB yet. I could try and push the timings a bit more in this case and that's that. I'm going to upgrade my CPU before swapping the board, possibly with a 3900x or 3950X after the new series come out.
Peace ✌️

Quote: Originally Posted by rares495 View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by MerlinsBeard View Post
64GB Ram O.C.
Is anyone running faster than 3066/CL14 with 4 sticks 64GB Memory on first gen Ryzen 1700? That is the fastest I was able to get.
That's amazing. You'd probably need a T-topology board to go higher but then you'd run into the IMC limitation.
03-29-2020 07:01 AM
1TM1
Quote: Originally Posted by rares495 View Post
You'd probably need a T-topology board to go higher
Agreed. T-topo C6H gave me ~200MHz more with 4 hynix but cost $100 more, so this Prime X370 is better value.

Currently 3066-14-17-15-17-34-50-4-7-16 on 48GB (16+16 Hynix DJR 3600-16 & 8+8 Samsung Bdie 3200-14).
HCI memtest showed stable 3133-14 but occasional crashes and TestMem5 showed 3066-14 was better with 1700.

Edit: I stand corrected, apparently PrimeX370Pro also is a T-topo (read further below). Explains why 4 DIMMS run better than 2 (the 3600-16 would only get 3000-14 by themselves but 3066-14 with the other 2 dimms). Same as in 2017: let's wait for the May BIOS.
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