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05-07-2020 10:13 AM
yoadknux
Quote: Originally Posted by deshu1 View Post
Hey guys I could use some guidance.
I wanna flash non stock bios to my asus 1080ti fe, because the stock has some kind of lock for minimum RPM. Even though I use custom curve in afterburner, to make fan stop spinning when idle, it still rotates at whats said to be "23%".

I am not after any OC, I'd rather downclock it a bit so it's not getting so hot so fast.

Any idea which bios should I flash to suite my needs?
Not all models have fans that are designed to operate continuously from 0 RPM to their maximum value. I have no experience with FE but I don't think it's a bios thing.
Regarding downclocking, just stick with stick bios, download msi afterburner, and go just do a curve at 0.993mV or some other value at around 1V. Should be 1850MHz stable.
05-07-2020 05:05 AM
deshu1 Hey guys I could use some guidance.
I wanna flash non stock bios to my asus 1080ti fe, because the stock has some kind of lock for minimum RPM. Even though I use custom curve in afterburner, to make fan stop spinning when idle, it still rotates at whats said to be "23%".

I am not after any OC, I'd rather downclock it a bit so it's not getting so hot so fast.

Any idea which bios should I flash to suite my needs?
05-06-2020 05:09 AM
Im Batman
Quote: Originally Posted by noxyd View Post
Just ran Superposition @8K and hit the 358W limit pretty much all the time.
Voltage ranges from 1.093V (2100mhz) down to 1.062V (2050mhz).

Can you show your AB curves for voltage and freq ?
What temperature are you hitting ?
Hey mate, apologies for the late reply I've been away.

See attached AB curves at .993mV, temps <70°C.

Your reply caused me to test at 1.093V, in which case turning up the core voltage (%) did permit it to reach the 358W limit.

Interesting that it doesn't permit the card up to 358W when limited at .993mV.

I also tested at .993mV with the core voltage (%) at 100%; which had the same result of limiting at just over 300W.

The benches were roughly the same in the end, so I reckon I'll just keep running it at that lesser voltage which gives me a consistent 1974MHz.

Thanks for looking into it for me.
04-29-2020 12:32 PM
noxyd
Quote: Originally Posted by Im Batman View Post
Hey guys lurker here,

Flashed the FTW3KingPinFix bios just the other day per the OP, no issues except it's reportedly power limiting at <358w while the slider is maxed to 127%.

Any ideas why this might be the case? Power limiting reported by both afterburner and hwinfo64.

Perhaps I'm mistaken? It doesn't actually appear to be throttling my core below 1974mhz which is where i'm stable @ .993mv

Max. power was reportedly 306.9w (109.6% of TDP) with superposition during an 8k bench. 1080ti MSI Seahawk EK X under water ofc for reference.

Querying because I didn't expect it to report power limiting at <358w, and perhaps I've gone wrong somewhere.

Thanks KedarWolf and the community for all the info / any feedback.

Just ran Superposition @8K and hit the 358W limit pretty much all the time.
Voltage ranges from 1.093V (2100mhz) down to 1.062V (2050mhz).

Can you show your AB curves for voltage and freq ?
What temperature are you hitting ?
04-27-2020 05:45 PM
1HunS
Quote: Originally Posted by 1HunS View Post
I have a Zotac 1080Ti AMP (dual FAN model) - Led only at LOGO ZOTAC
I bought a complete Refrigeration kit (heatsink + fans + Backplate) 1080ti Amp extreme (triple Fan), with 6 LEDs on the "face" of the board and 1 on the BP.

the pcb of both are identical, everything matched perfect, and everything connected perfectly (the extreme has 1 more connector) that in my AMp was empty, and now it is plugged (which is the BackPlate connector with led).

I tested the card and it is working perfectly, but the leds are not. Firestorm, which is where I control the leds, only has the LOGO Option Enabled (because the app recognizes that I am from AMP) the other 2 FRONT and REAR fields are not selectable.

The sign lit only the first led of the set of 6, which I believe is using the pinouts that the other one used for LOGO ZOTAC.
my old heatsink this same connector (11 pins total) only had 4 wires in use, the rest of the connector empty.
The Extreme heatsink has ALL 11 WIRES in the connector.

Doubt it is: I don't have RGB and I enjoy an ABSURDELY SUPERIOR cooler (it lowered my temperature by 15-20 degrees).

Or a BIOS CHANGE, for EXTREME bios would solve this ??
too risky to damage the board ??

I have no interest in it getting stronger, I only dreamed of working LEDs ... because I set up a whole RGB setup and bought this kit with this in mind ..

if anyone has the msm doubt my above .. SIMM, I got up my courage and did the swap bios ..

04-27-2020 01:20 AM
Im Batman Hey guys lurker here,

Flashed the FTW3KingPinFix bios just the other day per the OP, no issues except it's reportedly power limiting at <358w while the slider is maxed to 127%.

Any ideas why this might be the case? Power limiting reported by both afterburner and hwinfo64.

Perhaps I'm mistaken? It doesn't actually appear to be throttling my core below 1974mhz which is where i'm stable @ .993mv

Max. power was reportedly 306.9w (109.6% of TDP) with superposition during an 8k bench. 1080ti MSI Seahawk EK X under water ofc for reference.

Querying because I didn't expect it to report power limiting at <358w, and perhaps I've gone wrong somewhere.

Thanks KedarWolf and the community for all the info / any feedback.
04-25-2020 04:21 PM
rajkosto What bios can be flashed to Gigabyte 1080Ti Gaming OC (Black) and retain use of DVI, HDMI, 2x DP ports, as well as having the fan control and using all 8 vcore and 2 vmem phases properly ? I just want slightly more power like 330W or 350W. I'm ok with trying it if i can revert, but Gigabyte cards dont have manually accessible SPI BIOS chips, its part of the MCU.

EDIT: i cross flashed the popular asus rog strix OC 330W bios onto my gigabyte gaming oc 1080ti and now all sensors show halved power usage, both in % and in watts, hmm, actually all of the other vendor's bioses do this, is it because the gigabyte has 8+6 pin instead of 8+8 ?
04-25-2020 09:08 AM
1HunS I have a Zotac 1080Ti AMP (dual FAN model) - Led only at LOGO ZOTAC
I bought a complete Refrigeration kit (heatsink + fans + Backplate) 1080ti Amp extreme (triple Fan), with 6 LEDs on the "face" of the board and 1 on the BP.

the pcb of both are identical, everything matched perfect, and everything connected perfectly (the extreme has 1 more connector) that in my AMp was empty, and now it is plugged (which is the BackPlate connector with led).

I tested the card and it is working perfectly, but the leds are not. Firestorm, which is where I control the leds, only has the LOGO Option Enabled (because the app recognizes that I am from AMP) the other 2 FRONT and REAR fields are not selectable.

The sign lit only the first led of the set of 6, which I believe is using the pinouts that the other one used for LOGO ZOTAC.
my old heatsink this same connector (11 pins total) only had 4 wires in use, the rest of the connector empty.
The Extreme heatsink has ALL 11 WIRES in the connector.

Doubt it is: I don't have RGB and I enjoy an ABSURDELY SUPERIOR cooler (it lowered my temperature by 15-20 degrees).

Or a BIOS CHANGE, for EXTREME bios would solve this ??
too risky to damage the board ??

I have no interest in it getting stronger, I only dreamed of working LEDs ... because I set up a whole RGB setup and bought this kit with this in mind ..
04-23-2020 07:23 PM
mouacyk I'm not disputing other experiences with XOC BIOS. Just adding mine for consideration, so we don't leave any stones unturned. More importantly wanted to share that with the recent change to a cooler environment along with a thorough de-dusting of all components, I was able to decrease voltage at 2100 and increase clocks at 1.2v.
04-23-2020 05:04 PM
kithylin
Quote: Originally Posted by mouacyk View Post
As you might have guessed, I also run XOC BIOS without power limit. Are you by chance on Windows 7? I dual boot both and noticed that 7 will crash games/benches on an overclock that games perfectly fine (COD:MW 2019,BF1,BF4) in Windows 10, and both have passed at least the 3D mark stress test and are same driver version. I may have an older version of MSI AB on Windows 7, though.

It may be worthwhile to verify that all VRM and memory components are properly conducting heat, because having any weak points in this entire chain of cooling can attribute to random fluctuations like that. The factory install on my MSI Seahawk EK X was less than adequate, leaving parts of memory chips uncovered by thermal pads and thermal paste oozing everywhere -- who knows what other invisible defects might be affecting top end potential. I would dare say that my careful cleaning and re-application of thermal pads and liquid metal resulted in a much tighter spread of stable overclocks than was possible with the stock job.
With XOC on my card both windows 7 and windows 10 (I dual boot too) also won't play games. It's not about the clocks. As I stated in my post previously... (why am I repeating myself.. did you read my post?) It doesn't matter what clock I use. I can manually throttle it down to 1700 Mhz with no OC at all and it still dumps back to desktop. It does this in both windows 7 and windows 10. Games just do not work with XOC. And I'm using the thermal pads that came with the EK water block and I have them in the place where they are supposed to be per the manual and I have all the screws down tight. There is no fitment issues. I've taken the block apart and re-pasted it now just recently 5 weeks ago and tried XOC again. No matter what I do XOC will not let me play games on my card anymore no matter what.

It's not just me either. If you look over here at this post: https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-n...l#post28416682 bmgjet confirms degredation from using XOC too. Just because it works okay for you does -NOT MEAN IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYONE-. It's really bad for both me and bmgjet. So therefore (I posted this in my earlier post too.. guess I'll repeat again?) We'll continue to remind everyone the disclaimer that using XOC bios will 100% confirmed will degrade your card over time. It is not safe to be used as a "daily driver" bios on any 1080 Ti card for any reason unless people are comfortable with the potential for it to degrade their card in < 2 years. Temporary usage for benchmarking only.
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