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06-16-2019 05:37 PM
Naeem
Quote: Originally Posted by Dr. Vodka View Post
To make things even weirder, 7002 is gone from the official BIOS releases list. You can still download it, though.



https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/RO...HelpDesk_BIOS/



looks like PCI-E 4 support is getting locked down
06-16-2019 05:31 PM
iNeri
Quote: Originally Posted by iNeri View Post
Well, at same voltage and timings i can only get 3400 on the CH6E vs 3466 mhz on the taichi :/



It could be worse xD
Forget it, as soon i mod voltage or OC to CPU this ram OC dont work anymore. Cant pass the test no matter what i do. Damn it Asus, if this mobo come to the market 6 months later than C6H why you dont take care of, at least tunned the mobo to be equal on RAM OC :@

Anyway. With UV to -.075 LLC2, default enhacer and custom PBO to 200-110-150 i can get 3333 OC ram at 1.39v:



I dont know, on the taichi i was able to do 102 bclk OC and UV -.0375v. The RAM oc there was 3466 CL14-15-14-14 GD disabled 1t. Totally stable.

Other thing is, if i put 102 bclk here the latency goes as if i manual OC on cache NS: L1 1.0 ns L2 3.0ns L3 9.0+ ns while on the taichi with bclk i get L1 0.9 ns L2 2.8 NS LC 8.6 ns.

If i use bclk OC this mobo do 2 post from a cold boot. The taichi no problem, even boots faster. And while i run TM5 stress test on the taichi i can use the PC no problem, here is unusable while running.

Its a beauty piece of hardware, tons of features. It hurts that the performance is low than a lower end MOBO. I mean, is not Asrock the low cost brand of asustek? well, they doing it better
06-16-2019 02:22 PM
mito1172
Quote: Originally Posted by Dr. Vodka View Post
To make things even weirder, 7002 is gone from the official BIOS releases list. You can still download it, though.



https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/RO...HelpDesk_BIOS/


Why did he do that after 1 month? strange
06-16-2019 07:02 AM
LicSqualo
Quote: Originally Posted by elmor View Post
By the "secondary VGA slot", do you mean PCIEX8_2 (grey) or PCIEX4_3 (black)?

If you're using PCIEX8_2 for the PCI-E x4 M.2 card, the VGA in the first slot would run at x8. But if you use the PCIEX4_3 slot which is through the chipset PCI-E lanes and not the CPU, the VGA would still run at x16. The on-board M.2 slot is dedicated from the CPU and not shared with anything else. GPU-Z is usually very reliable for checking how many lanes are used by the graphics card.
Yes the PCIEX8_2 for the m2 card.
The "strange" is that all the Info software show X16 for the Vega64.
06-16-2019 06:15 AM
elmor
Quote: Originally Posted by LicSqualo View Post
@elmor
Just one question:
I've two M2 NVME drive, a first 970 Evo in the MB m2 socket and the 2nd one (950 Pro) over a PCI-Ex x4 card on the secondary VGA slot.
Also a Radeon Vega64 VGA card.
Well, all the software I use to check the speed of my prymary PCI-Ex indicate a x16 run (HWInfo. AIDA64, SIV).
Both NVME drives run at x4 speed.
How is possible (for my calculation I've: x16 Vga + x4 NVME + x4 NVME = 24 PCI-Ex lanes)?
Thx in advance.
Lic

By the "secondary VGA slot", do you mean PCIEX8_2 (grey) or PCIEX4_3 (black)?

If you're using PCIEX8_2 for the PCI-E x4 M.2 card, the VGA in the first slot would run at x8. But if you use the PCIEX4_3 slot which is through the chipset PCI-E lanes and not the CPU, the VGA would still run at x16. The on-board M.2 slot is dedicated from the CPU and not shared with anything else. GPU-Z is usually very reliable for checking how many lanes are used by the graphics card.
06-16-2019 05:59 AM
LicSqualo @elmor
Just one question:
I've two M2 NVME drive, a first 970 Evo in the MB m2 socket and the 2nd one (950 Pro) over a PCI-Ex x4 card on the secondary VGA slot.
Also a Radeon Vega64 VGA card.
Well, all the software I use to check the speed of my prymary PCI-Ex indicate a x16 run (HWInfo. AIDA64, SIV).
Both NVME drives run at x4 speed.
How is possible (for my calculation I've: x16 Vga + x4 NVME + x4 NVME = 24 PCI-Ex lanes)?
Thx in advance.
Lic
06-16-2019 05:54 AM
elmor
Quote: Originally Posted by arcDaniel View Post
@elmor

thanks for your support, but are you back in some way at Asus or is it only personal interest?

I'm not back at Asus.
06-16-2019 02:02 AM
Lermite
Quote: Originally Posted by Lermite View Post
I gonna try again AI suite to check this.
Some feedback:

Fan Xpert in AI Suite works fine with really applied Smoothing times, even if I had to set them to 63s to calm down my fans.

A weird side effect is that HWiNFO is now unable to read the fans speed variations: it always show still values despite I hear the fans speed to change.

As working fans is more important than their monitoring, I keep AI Suite.
Thanks for this advice.

EDIT / my bad: The HWiNFO sensors reading somehow crashes after any change applied by Fan Xpert but restarting it restores its normal behavior.
In other words: finally, everything is fine
06-16-2019 01:52 AM
arcDaniel @elmor

thanks for your support, but are you back in some way at Asus or is it only personal interest?
06-16-2019 01:05 AM
Lermite
Quote: Originally Posted by Aretak View Post
I've never had any luck with that setting in an Asus BIOS. Even on the Z270 board that I had a couple of years ago it was completely non-functional. Perhaps you don't want to install it (or perhaps you're not using Windows), but the version of it in Fan Xpert inside AI Suite works perfectly. AI Suite's interface is a mess, but I've had zero issues with it when just setting and forgetting a fan curve. It only uses a few megabytes of RAM for background processes once set up, which I find worth it for the upside. It'd be nice if there was a stand-alone version of Fan Xpert though.
What's weird is that my Prime X370 Pro, which is a much mid range motherboard than the C6H, always handled the fans perfectly, with a still working Smoothing time, without any need to install anything on Windows.

With the C6H, I started with the bios 6101. I don't remember if the Smoothing time issue was already there but according to your kind answer, it probably was.

I uses Fan Xpert from AI Suite with the bios up to 6401 because my fans didn't work at all.
I don't remember it made the Smoothing time to work though.

I gonna try again AI suite to check this.
However, there's no point to me to install the 7003 as I only have a 1700. I probably gonna keep the 6903 forever.
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