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07-22-2019 04:53 AM
MegamanAT
Quote: Originally Posted by majestynl View Post
no, not just a "whatever .cap file" ..Therefore they want is exactly named
did you even read what I have written?
07-22-2019 04:13 AM
Targonis
Quote: Originally Posted by MegamanAT View Post
right! an alternative way would be to just use/flash whatever .cap file can be found on the usb drive. but that's very dangerous in my opinion.
To be fair, I've always done a normal BIOS update from within the BIOS(Not using a Windows or DOS based flash utility) on my Crosshair VI Hero. Due to the number of people complaining about their new Ryzen processor not working, I wanted to be extra careful to make sure everything was as close to perfect as possible, so I made sure to use flashback this time around. Hynix M-die DDR4-3200CL16 RAM is finally working at the rated speeds with my new 3900X for the first time on this motherboard, so I am happy. I just made sure to use 1.41V for the RAM voltage(including the boot voltage in Digi+).
07-22-2019 04:13 AM
majestynl
Quote: Originally Posted by MegamanAT View Post
right! an alternative way would be to just use/flash whatever .cap file can be found on the usb drive. but that's very dangerous in my opinion.
no, not just a "whatever .cap file" ..Therefore they want is exactly named
07-22-2019 04:00 AM
MegamanAT
Quote: Originally Posted by Targonis View Post
Please look at what I said. For BIOS flashback, the file MUST have a specific name for the motherboard to look for. If you have ANY motherboard with BIOS flashback(where you just insert a flash drive and hit a button to flash the BIOS), it is EXACTLY the same. If all you want to do is be able to manually flash, then the rename/copy is not needed. The copy/rename of the BIOS file is ONLY for the BIOS flashback feature, which is more of a disaster-proof approach since you CAN brick your motherboard if you try to install a bad BIOS image, or something goes wrong.

So, MSI, for that flashback feature to work, you need to copy/rename the file. Almost no other brands have the BIOS flashback feature in the first place, and you have things like dual-BIOS and such to try to protect against making a mistake when flashing(to get you back up so you can possibly fix the problem).
right! an alternative way would be to just use/flash whatever .cap file can be found on the usb drive. but that's very dangerous in my opinion.
07-22-2019 03:20 AM
majestynl
Quote: Originally Posted by grunstyle View Post
Actually everything above 3600 is inefficient base on HardwareLuxx's review. (https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.ph....html?start=13)
uuuh not if you run 1:1 !! Probably they left the FCLK untouched above 3600!
07-22-2019 03:08 AM
Targonis
Quote: Originally Posted by uncleshady View Post
Right, so they all have to be named C6H.CAP because of BIOS flashback? Where I'm going with this is that with other brand mobos you dont have to do that last step of renaming the file. Their BIOS just accepts the BIOS has a name and the extension is how it knows its a BIOS. The extra renaming step is unnecessary for them.
Please look at what I said. For BIOS flashback, the file MUST have a specific name for the motherboard to look for. If you have ANY motherboard with BIOS flashback(where you just insert a flash drive and hit a button to flash the BIOS), it is EXACTLY the same. If all you want to do is be able to manually flash, then the rename/copy is not needed. The copy/rename of the BIOS file is ONLY for the BIOS flashback feature, which is more of a disaster-proof approach since you CAN brick your motherboard if you try to install a bad BIOS image, or something goes wrong.

So, MSI, for that flashback feature to work, you need to copy/rename the file. Almost no other brands have the BIOS flashback feature in the first place, and you have things like dual-BIOS and such to try to protect against making a mistake when flashing(to get you back up so you can possibly fix the problem).
07-22-2019 03:06 AM
grunstyle
Quote: Originally Posted by Fanu View Post
wait, you OCed your 3200C16 memory (not even b-die) to 3800C14 and you are bummed ? thats a huge increase in speed

I cant get my 3200C14 b-die samsung memory to run at anything faster than 3400C14 stable
Actually everything above 3600 is inefficient base on HardwareLuxx's review. (https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.ph....html?start=13)
07-22-2019 03:02 AM
Miiksu
Quote: Originally Posted by Fanu View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by datspike View Post
Im fine too. 3600 with just +200 on the cpu boost override, 3800C14 Ballistix (3200C16 ones)
Boosts to 4.4 on all cores in 1t light loads, up to 4.325 in Nt light loads and 4.025 in heavy avx.
The only problems I have is that safe_boot button barely works adn sometimes I get a random C5 on reboot (fixes itself with cold start)

Im more bummed about the lack of available tweaking to the boost behaviour compare to 2xxx cpus, altering the voltage in any way results in lower clocks and clock stretching - lower performance. Hope the bioses will improve on that point
wait, you OCed your 3200C16 memory (not even b-die) to 3800C14 and you are bummed ? thats a huge increase in speed

I cant get my 3200C14 b-die samsung memory to run at anything faster than 3400C14 stable
what is ur soc voltage?
07-22-2019 01:57 AM
majestynl
Quote: Originally Posted by uncleshady View Post
Right, so they all have to be named C6H.CAP because of BIOS flashback? Where I'm going with this is that with other brand mobos you dont have to do that last step of renaming the file. Their BIOS just accepts the BIOS has a name and the extension is how it knows its a BIOS. The extra renaming step is unnecessary for them.
You still get him wrong. All direct flashback by USB etc are working the same. Its mentioned when something happens and you have no video etc. How else the MB needs to know which file it needs to load?
I think you are confused with normal flashing.

For normal flashing in bios (Ez-Flash): you can change the name no problem. Cause the bios asks to select a certain file.
For flashback on the backside of the I/O (USB): it searched for a certain name/bios file!
07-21-2019 11:51 PM
Fanu
Quote: Originally Posted by datspike View Post
Im fine too. 3600 with just +200 on the cpu boost override, 3800C14 Ballistix (3200C16 ones)
Boosts to 4.4 on all cores in 1t light loads, up to 4.325 in Nt light loads and 4.025 in heavy avx.
The only problems I have is that safe_boot button barely works adn sometimes I get a random C5 on reboot (fixes itself with cold start)

Im more bummed about the lack of available tweaking to the boost behaviour compare to 2xxx cpus, altering the voltage in any way results in lower clocks and clock stretching - lower performance. Hope the bioses will improve on that point
wait, you OCed your 3200C16 memory (not even b-die) to 3800C14 and you are bummed ? thats a huge increase in speed

I cant get my 3200C14 b-die samsung memory to run at anything faster than 3400C14 stable
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