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07-21-2019 01:11 AM
janice1234 For me, i dont care about the latest AGESA.

All i want is they (Asus) fix the DRAM Boot voltage or C5 error in cold boot.
07-21-2019 12:49 AM
datspike
Quote: Originally Posted by Brko View Post
Am l the only one here who finds 7201 BIOS OK and not facing any issues whatsoever? 4060MHz @ 1.221V all core fixed OC + 3200 C14 RAM on DOCP settings (until new DRAM calc is released).

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Im fine too. 3600 with just +200 on the cpu boost override, 3800C14 Ballistix (3200C16 ones)
Boosts to 4.4 on all cores in 1t light loads, up to 4.325 in Nt light loads and 4.025 in heavy avx.
The only problems I have is that safe_boot button barely works adn sometimes I get a random C5 on reboot (fixes itself with cold start)

Im more bummed about the lack of available tweaking to the boost behaviour compare to 2xxx cpus, altering the voltage in any way results in lower clocks and clock stretching - lower performance. Hope the bioses will improve on that point
07-21-2019 12:22 AM
Brko Am l the only one here who finds 7201 BIOS OK and not facing any issues whatsoever? 4060MHz @ 1.221V all core fixed OC + 3200 C14 RAM on DOCP settings (until new DRAM calc is released).

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07-21-2019 12:17 AM
Targonis
Quote: Originally Posted by Ne01 OnnA View Post
AMD AGESA 1.0.0.3ABA Buggy, Company Pulls it from Motherboard Vendors

The latest version of AGESA ComboAM4 microcode that enables 3rd generation Ryzen support on AMD 400-series chipset motherboards has been deemed buggy and pulled from motherboard vendors.
AGESA ComboAM4 1.0.0.3ABA (not to be confused with 1.0.0.3AB that's being widely distributed), was originally released to fix an application crash noticed with "Destiny 2."
The microcode inadvertantly destabilizes PCI-Express on motherboards, with users of ASUS motherboards complaining of stability issues with the latest BIOS updates that include 1.0.0.3ABA.

Peter "Shamino" Tan from ASUS commented that the company was under a tight schedule to push 1.0.0.3ABA out as BIOS updates, and didn't have the time to properly validate it.
"We just got told to pull (was undergoing validation prior) 1003 ABA version," he said, adding the root cause of the problem being "that PCIE speed of BXB-C downgraded from gen4 to gen2,..."
He comments "so its not surprising that bugs emerge since the source has hidden bugs that only gets unraveled with thorough testing.
combine that with trying to get firmwares out in a tight time frame, kinda damn if you do (release firmware quickly) and damn if you dont (dont release firmware quickly) situation."
It's interesting to note that in their BIOS update change-logs, quite a few motherboard vendors omit the full version string of AGESA.
You may encounter ComboAM4 1.0.0.3AB being referred to simply as "AGESA ComboAM4 1.0.0.3."

That is ABA, the regular 1.0.0.3AB would be preferable for most people who are looking to just get their system working well and don't care about PCIe 4.
07-20-2019 07:43 PM
Ne01 OnnA AMD AGESA 1.0.0.3ABA Buggy, Company Pulls it from Motherboard Vendors

The latest version of AGESA ComboAM4 microcode that enables 3rd generation Ryzen support on AMD 400-series chipset motherboards has been deemed buggy and pulled from motherboard vendors.
AGESA ComboAM4 1.0.0.3ABA (not to be confused with 1.0.0.3AB that's being widely distributed), was originally released to fix an application crash noticed with "Destiny 2."
The microcode inadvertantly destabilizes PCI-Express on motherboards, with users of ASUS motherboards complaining of stability issues with the latest BIOS updates that include 1.0.0.3ABA.

Peter "Shamino" Tan from ASUS commented that the company was under a tight schedule to push 1.0.0.3ABA out as BIOS updates, and didn't have the time to properly validate it.
"We just got told to pull (was undergoing validation prior) 1003 ABA version," he said, adding the root cause of the problem being "that PCIE speed of BXB-C downgraded from gen4 to gen2,..."
He comments "so its not surprising that bugs emerge since the source has hidden bugs that only gets unraveled with thorough testing.
combine that with trying to get firmwares out in a tight time frame, kinda damn if you do (release firmware quickly) and damn if you dont (dont release firmware quickly) situation."
It's interesting to note that in their BIOS update change-logs, quite a few motherboard vendors omit the full version string of AGESA.
You may encounter ComboAM4 1.0.0.3AB being referred to simply as "AGESA ComboAM4 1.0.0.3."
07-20-2019 07:00 PM
Targonis
Quote: Originally Posted by shilent View Post
I didn't plan on overclocking until later when we have better BIOS's, but there's one thing I'd like to change.

If I run Prime95 blend, it'll run at 4.2+GHz all core 1.325V around 50-60C (varies a lot with Blend).
If I run Prime95 small FFTs it immediately goes to 3.9GHz 1.2V starts around 66C then creeps up to 71C max.
Cinebench R20 runs at 4.0-4.1GHz.

How can I keep it at 4.2GHz 1.325V for Prime95 small FFTs or any heavy loads?

Total power from my Kill-a-watt:
Prime95 blend = 150W
Prime95 small FFTs = 170W
Idle = 75W

Anyone know what's holding it back? Temp, power draw? I tried increasing CPU current capability in the BIOS to 140%, didn't do anything.

Or is this just the way the 3700X is designed? Is it possible to override this while keeping my 4.4GHz single thread boost speeds?
MY own feeling is that this AGESA 1.0.0.2 is definitely rough, but Asus doesn't want to give us 1.0.0.3ab because that would disable PCIe 4.0. I am keeping my 3900X at stock settings, just using DOCP to get my Hynix M-die 2x16GB 3200CL16 RAM to run at the rated speeds.
07-20-2019 06:53 PM
shilent I didn't plan on overclocking until later when we have better BIOS's, but there's one thing I'd like to change.

If I run Prime95 blend, it'll run at 4.2+GHz all core 1.325V around 50-60C (varies a lot with Blend).
If I run Prime95 small FFTs it immediately goes to 3.9GHz 1.2V starts around 66C then creeps up to 71C max.
Cinebench R20 runs at 4.0-4.1GHz.

How can I keep it at 4.2GHz 1.325V for Prime95 small FFTs or any heavy loads?

Total power from my Kill-a-watt:
Prime95 blend = 150W
Prime95 small FFTs = 170W
Idle = 75W

Anyone know what's holding it back? Temp, power draw? I tried increasing CPU current capability in the BIOS to 140%, didn't do anything.

Or is this just the way the 3700X is designed? Is it possible to override this while keeping my 4.4GHz single thread boost speeds?
07-20-2019 05:57 PM
TheRic89 I think it is Geardown mode being Auto or enabled that only lets CL bet set to an even number. Disable that and enable your DOCP setting and it should set it to 15. Geardown is under the DRAM Timings options I believe.
07-20-2019 05:32 PM
TwoBeers
Quote: Originally Posted by KWSW View Post
So for now till Asus sorts out the bios, should I be using offset or manual for my vcore?

Currently running manual 4.0ghz at 1.1v for my 3800X with almost everything else like LLC on auto. Since it's working fine without much issues so far, I dont really dare to touch anything else.
I'd suggest to just use "auto" Vcore and no manual or offset and no LLC. You will get the best performance out of it without worrying about anything.
07-20-2019 05:29 PM
KWSW So for now till Asus sorts out the bios, should I be using offset or manual for my vcore?

Currently running manual 4.0ghz at 1.1v for my 3800X with almost everything else like LLC on auto. Since it's working fine without much issues so far, I dont really dare to touch anything else.
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