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11-15-2019 04:32 PM
Zakman @bst any updates on when we can expect FCC/CE certification to be done?
11-10-2019 05:03 PM
qsxcv
Quote: Originally Posted by RyuKobs View Post
I have been reading up on this please correct me if I am wrong, a foot around the sensor helps keep the mousepad from flexing close towards the sensor when mouse is pressed down improving tracking performance.

If so, @bst should try to put one or keep enough space around the sensor so users can do it themselves.
yup. in particular not having one means that the sensitivity increases if you press on the mouse and use a soft pad (this is unavoidable when you swipe left and right in any fps game)

if the main feet are large enough, it's not really an issue.
11-10-2019 04:55 PM
qsxcv
Quote: Originally Posted by Nilizum View Post
Thanks for the clarification. Seems i made an assumption. There was a post about jitter/ripple here: https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-....html#user_vii and I seem to have confused 'smoothing' with ripple tolerance or whatever that guy said. Then again, that post is from 2012.

All I know is i have a dirty assed pad, on an uneven surface, living in an area with a lot of dust, yet my mouse does not jitter like an Abyssus (moves smooth like a baby's butt). Is there not some sort of processing to ascertain that? Sounded to me like smoothing, but apparently that ain't it.

That's where I got my (bad) idea. I feel like smoothing in mice terminology means like 10 different things, or maybe I'm just dumb.
yea we've learned a lot of things since 2012

dust/dirty mousepad shouldnt affect tracking unless there is a lot of dust on the sensor lens.

see OP of https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...topics/1554228
11-10-2019 04:35 PM
Elrick
Quote: Originally Posted by bst View Post
Hi all, I received a new sample yesterday. I think the mouse is finally finished

To the people who think I'm making money out of this, I'm not, at least not now and not any time soon.
Forget about those face-clowns, they're idiots and aren't worth wasting time on in any way.

Quote: Originally Posted by bst View Post
It's only if it sells regularly that I could even begin to think about making anything from it personally. I still enjoy bringing something new to life, but if I had known how long this would take, and how hard it would be, there's no way I would have done it.
YES, most here on this forum about 99.9% would never do what you do, ever in their life time. Hence you are one up on most of us here on this forum. Very easy to be petty and nasty towards anyone here it's the online sickness masquerading as 'information' which in fact it mostly isn't. It's all about attacking someone either because the attacker is linked to another adversary whom doesn't like what you are doing or will try and stop the release of your design.

Never underestimate the dirtiness of people, it's mostly in their DNA from birth. Some always feel better when they insult and tear someone else down, it's how they maintain their own pathetic standing in Life which basically isn't much of anything, if anyone actually confronts them in reality.

Quote: Originally Posted by bst View Post
I should have done something simple like some travel backpack that always seems to sell for $200 each and get over a million in funding
Thank GAWD you didn't otherwise we'll be again swamped with MORE junk that isn't worth buying anymore. Keep the faith despite walking into the Valley of Death - known as OCN .

There are still those that value your progress and want something to finally appear at Max Gaming soon...... we want that above all else.
11-10-2019 04:08 PM
Nilizum Thanks for the clarification. Seems i made an assumption. There was a post about jitter/ripple here: https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-....html#user_vii and I seem to have confused 'smoothing' with ripple tolerance or whatever that guy said. Then again, that post is from 2012.

All I know is i have a dirty assed pad, on an uneven surface, living in an area with a lot of dust, yet my mouse does not jitter like an Abyssus (moves smooth like a baby's butt). Is there not some sort of processing to ascertain that? Sounded to me like smoothing, but apparently that ain't it.

That's where I got my (bad) idea. I feel like smoothing in mice terminology means like 10 different things, or maybe I'm just dumb.
11-10-2019 03:21 PM
qsxcv well yes he is but even he didn't state something like "all sensors/sensor implementations have smoothing". not sure where you got that idea from.

yes there is noise, always, and smoothing reduces the noise in the processed data, but it isn't necessary and with any sensor that i can think of, unless you use a very high dpi, you wouldn't notice based on jitter whether there is smoothing or not.

that reddit post is a collection of both true statements and bs, with some "according to cpate" mixed in...
and some of the true things are outdated
11-10-2019 02:44 PM
Nilizum https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview...sor_smoothing/

I guess this guy was talking out of his ass then.
11-10-2019 01:30 PM
nyshak Well, with the Astrum we can quickly change shape for an aim boost then.
11-10-2019 12:09 PM
RyuKobs
Quote: Originally Posted by winz0r View Post
Actually there has been a study that show the brain gets complacent using the same sensitivity for a long time and it would focus more by modifying it slightly (which is why people tend to perform better after changing it but ultimately goes back to their original setting once the 'new setting rush to the brain' wore off). That same study shows modifying the sensitivity increases your rate of improvement.

You can read this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffen...r_sensitivity/
I find that in a slump getting enough sleep and doing something physical(Cleaning the yard,gardening, exercise, bicycle ride) helps more than changing sensitivity and going back again. YMMV.

Changing to a new mouse also gives the rush, even with the baddest shape for your hand plays really well for a day and the next day the magic is gone xD

Quote: Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post
is there a foot around the sensor?
I have been reading up on this please correct me if I am wrong, a foot around the sensor helps keep the mousepad from flexing close towards the sensor when mouse is pressed down improving tracking performance.

If so, @bst should try to put one or keep enough space around the sensor so users can do it themselves.
11-10-2019 09:07 AM
winz0r
Quote: Originally Posted by RyuKobs View Post
100% this. Muscle memory imo plays a very important role. If you use a mouse with a same shape and weight for years, you will easily be able outaim most people so much so only way to improve more is to perfect your ingame tactics and map learning.
Actually there has been a study that show the brain gets complacent using the same sensitivity for a long time and it would focus more by modifying it slightly (which is why people tend to perform better after changing it but ultimately goes back to their original setting once the 'new setting rush to the brain' wore off). That same study shows modifying the sensitivity increases your rate of improvement.

You can read this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffen...r_sensitivity/
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