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10-14-2019 10:20 AM
x7007 Did anyone notice Sluggish and slowdowns even on desktop explorer since 1803-1903? I fixed it by disabling Spectre protection using Inspectre program.
10-13-2019 06:35 AM
Offler
Quote: Originally Posted by cybrnook View Post
I am sure everyone already knows, but 1920x is $200 free shipping from Amazon. Killer deal for a great CPU!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Doing my third TR4 build with this around the Taichi M.
I can only recommend Taichi X399M for "little big build".

http://slayershrine.wz.cz/zoom.jpg
http://slayershrine.wz.cz/top.jpg
http://slayershrine.wz.cz/rear.jpg

I picked the smallest TR4 - 1900x because i am fine with 8 physical cores, but i wanted 4 memory channels for some time. Board itself offers 3 full PCI-E 3.0 16x slots and 3 full NVMe 3.0 x4 slots without any need to turn any of them off. Onboard Intel NICs and Wifi are also really good, and quality of basic onboard Realtek is actually stunning.

If you pick Fractal Design Node 804, you would be able to use any PCI-E slot for GPU (two at a time, 3 if you get a riser and a spot where to mount it). On screenshots is AMD FuryX with watercooler. GPU itself is on mainboard while its radiator is in the second chamber - really great for low temperatures. In time I replaced it with AMD Radeon VII which is overall better card, yet i messed airflow a lot and temps on CPU, RAM and VRMs went up.
10-12-2019 05:14 PM
PriestOfSin
Quote: Originally Posted by man114 View Post
Ok I finished (mostly) the Phantom Gaming 6 1920X build. Board interface is quite basic. The VRMs keep decent temp (but cramming into a small case with a top mount PSU probably helps). Team Vulcan B die 3000 ram went to 3333 without issue just as it did in the Gigabyte gaming 7. Seems like a serviceable if basic board. Benchmarked quite well. Went and bought another got one more old computer I’m gonna retire.
Same. I went cheap on my RAM, just got a basic Corsair 3000MHz CL15 kit, not able to get past 2666, but it's not a huge deal. Overall I think the board is pretty OK, but a stock 1950X won't stress these VRMs much. I don't really like the way the Fryzen looks, but performance is OK.
10-10-2019 10:06 PM
man114
Quote: Originally Posted by xkm1948 View Post
If they’re pin compatible like the Epyc the new chipset may just because they have New PCIe 4.0 or the chips require more power than the current VRMs can handle, however if that’s the case there’s no proof the mobo vendors won’t push out a BIOS update anyway. That’s like the cheap Asrock systems I’m building (that I really have no intent of upgrading even to the 2nd gen chips, I just want them to function for a long period of time doing their duty as small media servers so I don’t have to mess with them) it hasn’t stopped people from putting 2990s in them even though the VRM really isn’t designed for it, and despite that I haven’t seen anyone complaining they burned one out doing it anywhere. It may mean you can pick up a cheap mobo, I mean an X399 will be fine for a lot of tasks for quite a while.
10-10-2019 06:58 AM
xkm1948 TR3 CPU will not come to X399

https://www.techpowerup.com/259993/a...-threadrippers
10-08-2019 11:09 PM
man114 Ok I finished (mostly) the Phantom Gaming 6 1920X build. Board interface is quite basic. The VRMs keep decent temp (but cramming into a small case with a top mount PSU probably helps). Team Vulcan B die 3000 ram went to 3333 without issue just as it did in the Gigabyte gaming 7. Seems like a serviceable if basic board. Benchmarked quite well. Went and bought another got one more old computer I’m gonna retire.
10-05-2019 09:30 PM
man114
Quote: Originally Posted by Keith Myers View Post
Most consumer boards are designed for "bling" and not functionality. All the latest boards from the past several years have these monolithic chunks of metal on the VRM's simply to look chic and have actual very poor surface area for their supposed job of heat dissipation. The one series of boards that eschews the monolithic metalwork lately has been Gigabyte Aorus. Their VRM heatsinks are actual finned heat sinks with large amount of radiative area. I applaud that design decision. I wish more board manufacturers returned to the "form follows function" ethic.
There is no reason you can’t make an interesting looking heatsink like the Aorus X399 gaming 7 board that in at least some fashion allows airflow. The ones like the Asrock Phantom Gaming 6 though could use a look at. Considering it has the weakest VRM over the x399 boards it’s heatsink isn’t exactly well designed at least in terms of airflow. While connected via a heatpipe the side by the IO is pretty big probably enough so that the mass is helpful the top part is finned downward. It would clearly cool best with an air cooler (maybe Asrock bets on this in the budget range of things?).

It applies to more than VRMs, ram heat spreaders, m.2 heatsinks, more and more of it is designed more for the aesthetics these days. It’s like RGB on everything. There is no reason you can’t have both. I think the Gigabyte gaming 7 was a good example of it, aside from the Foxconn socket issues and their lousy BIOS support the board itself is not actually badly designed. If you had a BIOS that worked well with your RAM and other hardware it runs at good temps and is very stable in spite of RGB on everything.

My stuff to finish the Phantom Gaming 6 system should all be in this week so I’ll know better how the temps hold up. I’m hopefully optimistic it isn’t too bad and the board is decent, I have one other system that needs to run roughly 14 hard drives and I’d possibly build another while the CPU prices are low.
10-05-2019 11:58 AM
Keith Myers
Monolithic heatsinks bad - finned heatsinks good

Most consumer boards are designed for "bling" and not functionality. All the latest boards from the past several years have these monolithic chunks of metal on the VRM's simply to look chic and have actual very poor surface area for their supposed job of heat dissipation. The one series of boards that eschews the monolithic metalwork lately has been Gigabyte Aorus. Their VRM heatsinks are actual finned heat sinks with large amount of radiative area. I applaud that design decision. I wish more board manufacturers returned to the "form follows function" ethic.
10-04-2019 06:31 PM
PriestOfSin
Quote: Originally Posted by man114 View Post
It probably will be fine with an air cooler and top mounted fans. I posted a pic I dunno if you can see how weird the VRM heatsink orientation is for allowing air flow. The design really isn’t great for airflow in a conventional setup. It’s weirder they used the design with a less robust VRM to make a budget board. Now my $20 case mounts the PSU directly over the top old fashioned style and has dual 120mms on the side panel which will be fairly atypical for cooling. Since the gtx1080 I’m using is a blower I think it should get decent ventilation even if I have to add a fan to the back. I’m not putting the fans or anything in yet until the hard drive gets here, then I’ll start fooling around.

I’m only using the thing as an upstairs media server when it’s done so it’s not likely to be overclocked much if at all depending on what the temps are.
hmm. Well, I don't think I'm going to get mine finished until the holidays, but I will definitely let you know how the VRM temps are. Honestly I was thinking about just ripping off the stock """heatsink""" on the VRMs and adding my own- seeing as how a motherboard """heatsink""" these days is basically a decorative hunk of aluminium.

I've got my fans coming next week, so I'll install all of them and post a pic of how she looks.
10-04-2019 02:05 PM
man114 I’m not actually sure how this Phantom Gaming 6 actually is. It’ll be a few more days before I get the hard drive and WiFi card and put it together once and for all. Once I run some temps I’ll know better.

How much you want to cut costs probably depends on your purposes. I’m using an Asetek cooler in the current build, IBuypower occasionally sells them dirt cheap on eBay (I dunno if they have any currently I bought it several months ago). It’s not my preferred cooling solution but it’s cheap (well I paid less than most air coolers). Of course if I’m using a $20 case my primary concern is cost.

I am using 16gb of Team Vulcan ram which was b die 3000. I tested it stable to 3466 in the gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7. I mean I’ve used non QVL ram in my Gigabyte 1950X with success (I currently have 32gb of Adata spectrix running at 3333). In this case though I know the team Vulcan ram is good for the platform.

Ultimately you can build a 1920X for less than the 3700X or 3900X if you use the Asrock Gaming 6.

The phantom Gaming 6 board is really going to be the possible issue of future upgrades since it’s really only designed for 180w CPUs. Sure it may run a 2970 or 2990 but for how long or reliably? Even if the new TRs work on existing boards who knows if it’ll even have enough in the VRMs for them. You’d have to spend another $50 to get another non used board. I think the Aorus pro is the next cheapest and that’s an led stripped gaming 7 combined with the networking from the designare and no WiFi.

If you’re gonna be fine with a 1920X for a long while it’s a good deal. For me it’s for a bedroom and providing media to 2-3 TVs and possibly some gaming before bed, more than enough for what I plan on doing with it.
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