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03-22-2019 10:29 AM
ssateneth Managed to get 4133MHz working reliably. didn't touch VCCSA or VCCIO. They're on auto for now. yes, I know, auto sends a lot of volts. I'll work on that later. Currently testing 4133MHz CAS15 with tightened RTL/IO-L's (Planning to be 24/7). Will work on 3rd timings (seems to most strongly impact bandwidth) > primary timings > TREFI + TRFC > rest of secondary timings > final polish. 4000MHz CAS14 is "stable" too (throws an error once every 6 hours or so on memtest86 8.1 pro). Anything past 4133 seems out of reach (Dual rank modules). POST code wildly loops/flickers after a faster than normal 30 > 32 > 35, sometimes landing on 23, rarely on 55; I know 55 is almost definitely RAM failed to train (bad timings). 7F seems to also be RAM training related but less often. 23 is just... hard to diagnose for me so far.

tWTR settings (tWTR, tWTR_S, and tWTR_L) all don't seem to do anything. Can anyone confirm? "tWTR" seems to be a misnomer as same-bank tWTR_S and different bank tWTR_L are their own timings, detected to be 6 and 1 for L and S respectively, regardless of whatever you put in UEFI settings.

Speaking about XI APEX board, in case it wasn't known.
03-22-2019 09:06 AM
encrypted11 CPUID 906ED CML-S 10+2?

03-21-2019 05:55 PM
tw33k Running 5GHz with AVX 0 stable LLC level 6
03-20-2019 01:17 PM
Jpmboy
Quote: Originally Posted by swddeluxx View Post
You are right - Post Q-Code 23 is IMC Voltage Amount Correction needed BUT - some of Cpu need very small Amount of VCCIO and by Post Q-Code 23 it is better attempt adding OR remove a little VCCIO Voltage.
It is important that the Voltage combination VCCIO and VCCSA fit together
sure, but they kinda address different substructgures... that hopefully get aligned. VSa really feeds the fclk bus (system agent), vccio feeds imc/cache io...
Both voltages are not "more is better" in all cases.
03-20-2019 10:20 AM
swddeluxx
Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
try adding vccio with q-code 23. also, that board has Memok II (switch) try disabling the switch (no XMP) and re-do the ram OC.
You are right - Post Q-Code 23 is IMC Voltage Amount Correction needed BUT - some of Cpu need very small Amount of VCCIO and by Post Q-Code 23 it is better attempt adding OR remove a little VCCIO Voltage.
It is important that the Voltage combination VCCIO and VCCSA fit together
03-19-2019 06:30 PM
KedarWolf
Quote: Originally Posted by ssateneth View Post
Any recommended settings for dual rank B-DIE on APEX XI? The kit I have is certified for 4000 C19 2 x 16GB. I can do 4100 memtest stable, but frequently stuck on POST code 23. Would like to have more reliable POST at high speeds, or even push higher than 4100 reliably for 24/7.

Had to import the board from EU to USA... think I got a used board though. Retailer was computeruniverse.net. There was an open bag in the box that matched the shape of I/O shield, there was protective plastic film in the shape of I/O shield stuck to a different plastic film, the bag for DIMM.2 module showed evidence of tampering (tape residue on the bag), was missing a bag of DIMM.2 screws, and the DIMM.2 modile already had installed M.2 screws on it and thermal pad protective paper was removed from one side of DIMM.2 module... I don't even know how much used it is :/ can't return it because it's international too.
@Jpmboy who's pretty much a God on these forums swears by the CL15 2x8GB 3600 Trident Z NOT RGB. They are highly binned and I think he got a really high overclock on them if I recall right, 4500 24/7 stable on his 8700k, don't recall on his 9900k. And if I remember right, the CL19 4400 kit is good too, but PM him, he'll tell you.
03-19-2019 04:55 PM
Jpmboy
Quote: Originally Posted by ssateneth View Post
Any recommended settings for dual rank B-DIE on APEX XI? The kit I have is certified for 4000 C19 2 x 16GB. I can do 4100 memtest stable, but frequently stuck on POST code 23. Would like to have more reliable POST at high speeds, or even push higher than 4100 reliably for 24/7.

Had to import the board from EU to USA... think I got a used board though. Retailer was computeruniverse.net. There was an open bag in the box that matched the shape of I/O shield, there was protective plastic film in the shape of I/O shield stuck to a different plastic film, the bag for DIMM.2 module showed evidence of tampering (tape residue on the bag), was missing a bag of DIMM.2 screws, and the DIMM.2 modile already had installed M.2 screws on it and thermal pad protective paper was removed from one side of DIMM.2 module... I don't even know how much used it is :/ can't return it because it's international too.
try adding vccio with q-code 23. also, that board has Memok II (switch) try disabling the switch (no XMP) and re-do the ram OC.
03-19-2019 03:47 PM
ssateneth Any recommended settings for dual rank B-DIE on APEX XI? The kit I have is certified for 4000 C19 2 x 16GB. I can do 4100 memtest stable, but frequently stuck on POST code 23. Would like to have more reliable POST at high speeds, or even push higher than 4100 reliably for 24/7.

Had to import the board from EU to USA... think I got a used board though. Retailer was computeruniverse.net. There was an open bag in the box that matched the shape of I/O shield, there was protective plastic film in the shape of I/O shield stuck to a different plastic film, the bag for DIMM.2 module showed evidence of tampering (tape residue on the bag), was missing a bag of DIMM.2 screws, and the DIMM.2 modile already had installed M.2 screws on it and thermal pad protective paper was removed from one side of DIMM.2 module... I don't even know how much used it is :/ can't return it because it's international too.
03-17-2019 06:20 PM
Jpmboy if you want to compare/post: https://www.overclock.net/forum/21-b...20-scores.html
03-17-2019 04:39 PM
swddeluxx Thanks Jmpboy

there Cinebench R15 and R20 Result but i think my System in not optimised for it



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