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02-24-2020 01:27 AM
JackCY Never heard of any new firmware for these LG monitors. Even if there is one it often means having a monitor serviced to get it updated. It's rather rare to get an updater to download from manufacturer.

Yeah some of the AUO VA variants are curved, eh.

PX329 is flat. LG are flat. But Acer and BenQ have the curved variant.
I won't use curved monitor after trying a couple of the curved Samsung VAs in 27" and 31.5", it's simply wrong and distorted as expected, the panel quality is often ruined by the curving process too and all it seems to offer are disadvantages and undesirable characteristics. Why do they curve most of their VA monitor panels? To help deal with the poor VA viewing angles a little, to "look cool" in marketing.

If you like the VA options, I would stick with flat AUO or try the newer flat Samsung options but I don't those models or what is there finally available with them.

There is stuff like the 38" UW from LG but again most UWs are curved = undesirable and insanely priced, https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_38gl950g.htm and it has the same issue as other newer LG IPS "gaming" panels, damn low contrast for an IPS, below 1000:1 in a territory of old TNs. For that price, it should have had at least FALD if they can't do dual layer.

For UWs there is now https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews..._nx-edg34s.htm which I've seen getting mentioned lately. Again, to me undesirably curved, has a blacks smearing Samsung VA. But it's around 500-700 USD/EUR which is a bit lower than the insanity of other UW monitors at 900-infinity.

Why do I hate curving? It distorts the image, the image from 3D apps/games is rendered centered camera looking at a flat plane, not looking at a curved plane. All the speed perception in games is wrong due to it. You can adapt, somewhat, if you can sit very still in the same spot but it's annoying and less consistent than using a flat screen. All the webpages, movies, etc. are gonna be warped.
But also because you get crap like this because of it:



^ASUS TUF VG32VQ from rtings

Sadly all the 32" 1440p 144+Hz are VA so far.

Dell https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s3220dgf

I have no hopes for LG ever resolving any issues with their products. You can talk to them, somewhat with some luck but you will never get any firmware update out of them (I tried, others tried), as always they will tell you to send it in for servicing and that won't solve anything if they have no firmware update to fix the problems. The 850G had not only sharpness issues but also unwanted OSD popup. Early batches looked nicer than older batches where people started to get defective panels. Or mine where the electronics were loose somewhere inside causing problems with connection quality and artifacts on half the screen most of the time. All this with 2 years (law minimum, probably 1 year in US etc.) only warranty on probably all LG products = low confidence in their own products lasting, doesn't matter if it's a 500 EUR LG monitor or 2500 EUR LG TV, you're gonna get 2 years warranty, it's nuts. Other manufacturers offer longer warranty even on way cheaper products.

If you like VA, there are options, flat and curved, but very limited options to AUO or Samsung VA in 100+Hz.
For other LCD types, so far nothing in 100+Hz Soon, maybe, who knows, check TFTC's blog/log of when what panels should arrive.
02-24-2020 12:17 AM
smoke2
Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
Yeah the LG firmware blurs it a little as far as I remember.

Isn't that Acer the same VA panel? You could try that if you like the panel but not the firmware issues on LG.
Don't remember the ASUS, searching, ah yeah just a curved Samsung VA rebadge isn't it. 34GK is very pricey if I remember right, and curved, yuck, it's also less tall than 16:9 32", it's a wider 27" really = higher than standard PPI = scaling issues in most OSes unless you like tiny text. http://www.displaywars.com/34-inch-d...7B2560x1440%7D

Still nothing new so far I think in the 32" IPS/VA department 100+Hz 1440p. You've got the AUO and Samsung VA, that's it.
Acer is also AUO panel, but must be different model, because it curved.
ASUS with Samsung panel could be way to go.
34GK950 is currently not much pricey, but I'm concerned about little height.
The new firmware on 32GK850 resolved the sharpness of the screen? Thank you.
02-23-2020 10:50 PM
JackCY Yeah the LG firmware blurs it a little as far as I remember.

Isn't that Acer the same VA panel? You could try that if you like the panel but not the firmware issues on LG.
Don't remember the ASUS, searching, ah yeah just a curved Samsung VA rebadge isn't it. 34GK is very pricey if I remember right, and curved, yuck, it's also less tall than 16:9 32", it's a wider 27" really = higher than standard PPI = scaling issues in most OSes unless you like tiny text. http://www.displaywars.com/34-inch-d...7B2560x1440%7D

Still nothing new so far I think in the 32" IPS/VA department 100+Hz 1440p. You've got the AUO and Samsung VA, that's it.
02-23-2020 02:04 PM
smoke2 I owned this monitor 32GK850G and returned it, because I was shocked by blurred image and text. I owned before Samsung S32D850 which had great sharpness of the image and text.

Im wondering mostly to buy:
ASUS XG32VQ
Acer Z321QU
LG 34GK950F

Would be glad if someone have experience with above models or some others and confirm me if its have the "standard" sharpness not like 32GK850G.
01-02-2020 04:40 PM
JackCY Orange faces I've had with AOC AG322QCX, Samsung's 31.5" VA but with TPV's backlight and AOC's weird tone mapping which made faces orange and overall it was kind of oversaturated. While Samsung's own 27" HG70 yes had bright saturated unnatural QD peak colors but otherwise the tone mapping was way better and I haven't seen orange (also called lobster) faces on other wider gamut monitors.
A lot has to do with how they tone map/calibrate it.

With VA you can have the opposite problem due to black crush in dead center before viewing angles make the blacks brighter around edges. I hated this on the Samsung VA with it's low viewing angles for blacks, this AUO VA is way better in that regard of how large the black spot is and how much it glows + viewing angles for blacks.

With 850G it's rather the opposite problem, lack of saturation out of center due to viewing angles.
12-29-2019 07:57 PM
IntelHouseFire
Quote: Originally Posted by Opus131 View Post
I have the 27GL850 for over a month and i still can't get used to the contrast (it's worse for movies than games though). I was going to return it but Amazon gave me another month because it's Christmas time, so i have time until the end of December to decide.

If i return it, i have absolutely no idea what to get though. The Innolux screens have better contrast but they are slow, and the contrast is still crappy anyway because IPS so not sure if it's worth trading one problem for another. The only VA panel i would consider right now is the LG 32GK850F but that one has worse smearing than the LG 32GK850G plus i heard some people suffer from scanline artifacts. I had those on the Samsung 27CH70 and i hated them. Plus from what i hear text isn't exactly sharp.

I have an half idea of getting two monitors and call it a frikking day. I'm not made of money but this is driving me nuts.
I was in the exact same boat as you. Bought the GL850 expecting it to be the endgame, but instead got something with worse contrast ratio than my ~10 year old secondary office TN monitor. Dark areas in games are very hard to make out, details of dark clothes in movies kind of all crush together, etc. Towards the end I also realized that wide gamut + srgb content maybe isn't for me. Oversaturation in nature scenes looked very good, but everything else just looked wrong; especially faces which became too orange. Also had some slight IPS glow that was annoying when standing up or watching dark content, but that I could have lived with.

Returned the monitor and now I'm waiting for the 32GK850G to get here.
12-29-2019 10:33 AM
JackCY Yes it's a nice VA from all the VAs currently available for monitors. The defects sadly seem no better after many reports here than other LCD panels.
12-29-2019 09:53 AM
MaskedMark The backlights are fine, I'm surprised I didn't think of holding the led button. I have the monitor against the corner, and it gives off nice ambience. Only thing I'm pissed off about is that this one still has a dead pixel or two, but close to center a small speck of dust I presume? Because looking at if from a steep angle, like from the top side of the display, it looks like a small bright/white dot, but I really dont care anymore, third monitor with this bs, dont really notice it that much, in games its invisible. Other than that, a great screen, definitely the best VA, on the fastest setting there is some overshoot, sometimes you can see it, but I kinda found it hard to replicate the few moments when I kinda did notice it, either way a lot better than having black smearing, and with that I haven't had any issues or noticed any serious smearing barely any at all lol. Playing in a dark room, loving the contrast and uniform backlight, no bleeds or glows, picture looks really good!
12-27-2019 10:42 AM
JackCY Yeah the LEDs are kinda messed up, you can find it around commented about, I wrote it somewhere too I think but don't remember precisely. Anyway the LEDs are so weak, same as Samsung HG70 that they are useless and a low quality LEDs too. You're not gonna get any nice backlight at high CRI or the colors adapting to input image and having enough brightness to work as a good background extension (like the kits you can buy or make but none exist yet for DP, only HDMI or software = meh).
12-22-2019 12:43 PM
Fanu there is a dedicated button to turn the sphere lightning on/off
you have to manually turn it on and off every time - it wont do it automatically

stupid, but hey, thats LG for you - they do the absolute minimum and ship the product
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