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01-02-2020 04:40 PM
JackCY Orange faces I've had with AOC AG322QCX, Samsung's 31.5" VA but with TPV's backlight and AOC's weird tone mapping which made faces orange and overall it was kind of oversaturated. While Samsung's own 27" HG70 yes had bright saturated unnatural QD peak colors but otherwise the tone mapping was way better and I haven't seen orange (also called lobster) faces on other wider gamut monitors.
A lot has to do with how they tone map/calibrate it.

With VA you can have the opposite problem due to black crush in dead center before viewing angles make the blacks brighter around edges. I hated this on the Samsung VA with it's low viewing angles for blacks, this AUO VA is way better in that regard of how large the black spot is and how much it glows + viewing angles for blacks.

With 850G it's rather the opposite problem, lack of saturation out of center due to viewing angles.
12-29-2019 07:57 PM
IntelHouseFire
Quote: Originally Posted by Opus131 View Post
I have the 27GL850 for over a month and i still can't get used to the contrast (it's worse for movies than games though). I was going to return it but Amazon gave me another month because it's Christmas time, so i have time until the end of December to decide.

If i return it, i have absolutely no idea what to get though. The Innolux screens have better contrast but they are slow, and the contrast is still crappy anyway because IPS so not sure if it's worth trading one problem for another. The only VA panel i would consider right now is the LG 32GK850F but that one has worse smearing than the LG 32GK850G plus i heard some people suffer from scanline artifacts. I had those on the Samsung 27CH70 and i hated them. Plus from what i hear text isn't exactly sharp.

I have an half idea of getting two monitors and call it a frikking day. I'm not made of money but this is driving me nuts.
I was in the exact same boat as you. Bought the GL850 expecting it to be the endgame, but instead got something with worse contrast ratio than my ~10 year old secondary office TN monitor. Dark areas in games are very hard to make out, details of dark clothes in movies kind of all crush together, etc. Towards the end I also realized that wide gamut + srgb content maybe isn't for me. Oversaturation in nature scenes looked very good, but everything else just looked wrong; especially faces which became too orange. Also had some slight IPS glow that was annoying when standing up or watching dark content, but that I could have lived with.

Returned the monitor and now I'm waiting for the 32GK850G to get here.
12-29-2019 10:33 AM
JackCY Yes it's a nice VA from all the VAs currently available for monitors. The defects sadly seem no better after many reports here than other LCD panels.
12-29-2019 09:53 AM
MaskedMark The backlights are fine, I'm surprised I didn't think of holding the led button. I have the monitor against the corner, and it gives off nice ambience. Only thing I'm pissed off about is that this one still has a dead pixel or two, but close to center a small speck of dust I presume? Because looking at if from a steep angle, like from the top side of the display, it looks like a small bright/white dot, but I really dont care anymore, third monitor with this bs, dont really notice it that much, in games its invisible. Other than that, a great screen, definitely the best VA, on the fastest setting there is some overshoot, sometimes you can see it, but I kinda found it hard to replicate the few moments when I kinda did notice it, either way a lot better than having black smearing, and with that I haven't had any issues or noticed any serious smearing barely any at all lol. Playing in a dark room, loving the contrast and uniform backlight, no bleeds or glows, picture looks really good!
12-27-2019 10:42 AM
JackCY Yeah the LEDs are kinda messed up, you can find it around commented about, I wrote it somewhere too I think but don't remember precisely. Anyway the LEDs are so weak, same as Samsung HG70 that they are useless and a low quality LEDs too. You're not gonna get any nice backlight at high CRI or the colors adapting to input image and having enough brightness to work as a good background extension (like the kits you can buy or make but none exist yet for DP, only HDMI or software = meh).
12-22-2019 12:43 PM
Fanu there is a dedicated button to turn the sphere lightning on/off
you have to manually turn it on and off every time - it wont do it automatically

stupid, but hey, thats LG for you - they do the absolute minimum and ship the product
12-21-2019 06:43 AM
MaskedMark So, I got my 32GK850G yesterday. So far, loving it, it is definitely a superior model compared to 32gk650F - black smearing is a lot more reduced compared to 650F, at least from what I've seen. I'm running this thing with OC 165Hz, GSYNC enabled and ''fast'' response mode, and games like Far Cry 2 had almost NO shimmer in trees, the doors didnt seem to have such apparent smearing in the black frames and such, like yeah, it's still there, but it's really minimal and you only really do notice it when you are actively looking at it. Tho I've been pretty unlucky with dead pixels, cause I had them on all 3 monitors I got now, this one is no exception, but theres only one that is legit visible, but its far right side and it's small, doesn't bother me and it pretty much disappears since it can't be seen that much exactly from an angle.

Opus, if you're considering trying a VA, you definitely have to give this one a try, games look AMAZING, like I just switched back from the IPS TV, and I dont have any issues with the colors, they look still pretty good, maybe not as punchy, but once I turned on a game like Resident Evil 5 at night, man oh man was I immersed, the contrast is flipping amazing, no bleed or anything of course as it's a VA, tho bottom does have a minor VA glow. but might be from the angle I'm looking. Color shift, cant comment much on that, did look for a few solid color backgrounds, and I did see a little bit of shift, but that could really make me care less, I sit about 60-70cm away from the monitor, and I legit have no issues with these shifts, they didnt seem THAT pronounced. Text and everything seems pretty sharp, not 27' 1440P sharp, but the softening/minimal blur it has doesnt bother me tho, games are smooth and pretty sharp, and I have no problems reading text or browsing web, and I know how bad a blurry text can get.

TL;DR:

I love this monitor, the sphere light is nice, I would love to know if it's possible to turn it off, at least when I turn my monitor off, if not then ***. But the best VA panel I have tried, anyone that doesnt want to risk with BLB and IPS Glow should seriously consider checking this screen out, I did end up getting a deal on it for 440EUR.
12-13-2019 05:18 PM
JackCY It varies due to lottery on this model which OD is the best for it, sometimes it's the second most aggressive, sometimes it's the most aggressive option. Reviewers often select the OD that gives best result with acceptably low over and undershoot.
Some of these models are sRGB, of course they are gonna be around the 95% mark as any other sRGB marketed monitor.

I don't like FALD either, overpriced and poor quality.

I have this on 75Hz weak OD:
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-...Responsiveness

Well 76.1Hz with Async often around 73Hz.
Got this after the 850G, the difference in viewing angles and blacks smearing is night and day.

The 850G, smears blacks, it takes some proper well tuned aggressive OD for a VA to not do that:

https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/lg-3...Responsiveness

There should be no black trails behind the UFO on any of the background brightness levels.
12-12-2019 11:54 PM
Synoxia
Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
Obviously you never had an IPS that didn't suffer terrible glow like the AUO's terrible M270DAN2.x panel does.
There are plenty IPS that have almost no even no glow at all. Not everyone makes IPS as bad as AUO does. Or as bad VA glow as Samsung does.


Tons of blacks smearing in that linked UFO photo.

25 deg is easy on a 32". And most of the VAs are only reasonable to around 15 deg, which is 27" viewed from a larger distance.

If you get a professional monitor then you can calibrate what ever you want. These consumer/home use models have no user changeable calibration. No one makes a 100Hz+ with hardware calibration yet.

Without dual layer, FALD or OLED the VA blacks are underwhelming at best, it's a small difference compared to IPS.

Want deep blacks, get dual layer, FALD or OLED. And neither is cheap right now.



Or find out what the differences are finally XD Being able to see the issues.
Honestly that's still better than my current xg2401 monitor. I don't notice any smearing. Real problem is that i've just noticed it has only 96% SRGB coverage, so still a downgrade from my current monitor.
Seems like they just want us to buy expensive 4k panels, market just deleted 1440p as i said in another post... then you check prices and 1080p doesn't seem that bad after all.
FALD sucks, people that own PG27UQ say it's very noticeable. IDK about PG27UQX but that will be manageable in another 3-5 years... Let'sWaitTM

EDIT: did you actually look for the faster response time images? This monitor actually look better on high overdrive settings than low ones
12-12-2019 05:20 PM
JackCY
Quote: Originally Posted by reflex75 View Post
IPS glow is so disgusting that it disqualifies IPS panels all together!
Obviously you never had an IPS that didn't suffer terrible glow like the AUO's terrible M270DAN2.x panel does.
There are plenty IPS that have almost no even no glow at all. Not everyone makes IPS as bad as AUO does. Or as bad VA glow as Samsung does.

Quote: Originally Posted by Synoxia View Post
I think once again it all comes down to preference, but i don't see smearing/i am not subject to it from this panel in the reviews i've seen, check this ufo test
https://pcmonitors.info/wp-content/u...blur-165Hz.png[img]
In comparison my XG2401 is plain brown defecation lol, also being consistent across all the range... at 60hz my monitor is a blurry mess.
What would make me step from this monitor is the overall lag, size and g-sync usability.
From what i'm seeing it should have a similiar lag to my xg2401, actually faster input lag but of course slower response time...
Viewing angles as i said does not seem a problem to me because my TN is worse. I am using this monitor from perfect center D:
Saturation isn't a thing you can calibrate?
Better black of VA > better color of IPS, unless i find an IPS panel that has better blacks than a VA im for this va
Tons of blacks smearing in that linked UFO photo.

25 deg is easy on a 32". And most of the VAs are only reasonable to around 15 deg, which is 27" viewed from a larger distance.

If you get a professional monitor then you can calibrate what ever you want. These consumer/home use models have no user changeable calibration. No one makes a 100Hz+ with hardware calibration yet.

Without dual layer, FALD or OLED the VA blacks are underwhelming at best, it's a small difference compared to IPS.

Want deep blacks, get dual layer, FALD or OLED. And neither is cheap right now.

Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Nightman View Post
So on Monday I had cataract removal surgery on one eye, and the 850G is actually blowing my mind now that I can see it without constant haziness. Text is sharp and clear, colors look nice imo and motion is great, with no noticeable smearing or anything else distracting. It really blows my Dell S2716DGR out of the water, definitely keeping this monitor now. I get my 2nd eye fixed the 23, so it'll only get nicer to use and look at
Or find out what the differences are finally XD Being able to see the issues.
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